▲ 402 ▼ New U.S. flag just dropped. (lemmy.ca) submitted 1 year ago by asg101@lemmy.ca to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments Because they didn't have razor wire and chain link fence in 1776.
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (16 children) Yeah, this is gonna go viral for all the wrong reasons. 🤢 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] asg101@lemmy.ca [S] 10 points 1 year ago (15 children) Sickeningly true... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Literally, my immediate thought process when I saw this earlier today: "Yeah, ain't that the fuckin' truth." "Hmm. To sticker the car window or no—" "Wait, shit." "Aw, maaan. They're just gonna add this to their hur-dur-Punisher pile o' shit" "Just ...Fuck this timeline." Also: called it. 🤮 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Don't even get me started on the low-effort BS that Lucas glued that chroma lore together with. Instead, check out the Radiolab ep on the evolution of rods & cones (title?), and how "blue" is the most recent addition to human vision. It's widely agreed that "red" was one of the first, and how that ties into early religiosity (ie. blood cults, etc.) is super interesting. 🤓🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asg101@lemmy.ca [S] 10 points 1 year ago (15 children) Sickeningly true... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Literally, my immediate thought process when I saw this earlier today: "Yeah, ain't that the fuckin' truth." "Hmm. To sticker the car window or no—" "Wait, shit." "Aw, maaan. They're just gonna add this to their hur-dur-Punisher pile o' shit" "Just ...Fuck this timeline." Also: called it. 🤮 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Don't even get me started on the low-effort BS that Lucas glued that chroma lore together with. Instead, check out the Radiolab ep on the evolution of rods & cones (title?), and how "blue" is the most recent addition to human vision. It's widely agreed that "red" was one of the first, and how that ties into early religiosity (ie. blood cults, etc.) is super interesting. 🤓🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Literally, my immediate thought process when I saw this earlier today: "Yeah, ain't that the fuckin' truth." "Hmm. To sticker the car window or no—" "Wait, shit." "Aw, maaan. They're just gonna add this to their hur-dur-Punisher pile o' shit" "Just ...Fuck this timeline." Also: called it. 🤮 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Don't even get me started on the low-effort BS that Lucas glued that chroma lore together with. Instead, check out the Radiolab ep on the evolution of rods & cones (title?), and how "blue" is the most recent addition to human vision. It's widely agreed that "red" was one of the first, and how that ties into early religiosity (ie. blood cults, etc.) is super interesting. 🤓🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Don't even get me started on the low-effort BS that Lucas glued that chroma lore together with. Instead, check out the Radiolab ep on the evolution of rods & cones (title?), and how "blue" is the most recent addition to human vision. It's widely agreed that "red" was one of the first, and how that ties into early religiosity (ie. blood cults, etc.) is super interesting. 🤓🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Don't even get me started on the low-effort BS that Lucas glued that chroma lore together with. Instead, check out the Radiolab ep on the evolution of rods & cones (title?), and how "blue" is the most recent addition to human vision. It's widely agreed that "red" was one of the first, and how that ties into early religiosity (ie. blood cults, etc.) is super interesting. 🤓🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* You should definitely enjoy the Skywalker Paradigm. Give it a look. Compellingly silly stuff, and the citations are hilarious — that also tend to inspire that little bit of curiosity that spawns more questions. 😜 What's the word for an earworm, but for headcanon, anyway? 🤔🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (9 children) Humans have always had blue vision. Blue was the last primary colour named permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (7 children) Those two sentences are at odds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) No they aren't. "Naming" and "seeing" are two radically different words that mean radically different things. In ancient China, for example, there was no word for green or blue. Instead there was a single word that covered both: 青. (In modern linguistics such terms are called "grue".) You'll find similar things in many other cultures' linguistic history (some even extending to today!). It doesn't mean they couldn't see the difference. All you have to do to disprove that is look at ancient painted beams in China and see the clearly delineated green and blue segments in complex patterns. If they literally couldn't see blue, this would not exist, yet oddly it does. In fact all they did was classify things differently from modern English. (Today they have 绿 and 蓝 for green and blue respectively, using 青 only for colours like turquoise or the colour of blue-green algae. This is, however, very recent: literally 20th century. The characters have existed for a long time, but were used as shades of 青 for most of that history like we use "sky" and "navy" as shades of blue.) Trying to claim that they literally couldn't see blue because they named it differently and categorized things differently is risible on the face of it. This would be like me claiming you couldn't tell the difference between sky blue and navy blue because in English they're both called "blue". It takes literally seconds of thought to figure out that this claim is bullshit using just your own language and colour differentiation as the evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) FFS. Breathe. Also, go find the episode, then maybe I'll sift through this yarp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago Translation: "I'm too lazy to back up my bullshit." Buh-bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's not much blue in the world other than sea and sky, and those have their own names permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) And if you'd taken the moment to listen to said episode, you might be a little more aware of the context — but who expects that of rando anons these days. 🫣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. Who'd expect a random anon to do more than vaguebooking an episode without links and then using that as "proof". You utter berk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Aw. 😚 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago The number of people who believe that ancient civilizations couldn't see blue is truly scary to me. permalink fedilink source parent