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Hisense TVs force owners to watch intrusive ads when switching inputs, visiting the home screen, or even changing channels — practice infuriates consumers, brand denies wrongdoing (www.tomshardware.com)
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[–] 23 points 8 months ago (32 children)

Anybody have un-enshittified 4k tv recommendations?

Mainly want good picture quality for movies + high refresh rate for games.

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The biggest thing you can do is just never connect it to the internet. I even block the MAC addresses so ever if someone tried to connect it, it won’t. Then use an external box like a Roku, PC, or AppleTV to connect to your content.

    And, if any TV requires an internet connection to set it up, immediately return it.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    Exactly this.

    "Smart" TVs never go online, never connect to anything but power and an HDMI, and quite frankly..if it didnt risk causing warranty headaches, I'd open teh fucker up and unplug its wifi antenna too.

    Always use an old PC/Laptop/Raspberry Pi/whatever to get them online/on youtube/streaming/etc. You have full control over those devices, and can update them as desired and modify them at a whim.

    Fuckin hate smart TVs. a bunch of fucking spyware and adware that just makes the device run hotter and die sooner.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    LG is solid as long as you don’t agree to the terms. I get no ads but I only use the internet on it to update the firmware. Samsung is more annoying with their ads.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I only use the internet on it to update the firmware.

    You don't even need to do that. I download firmware updates from the LG website, throw it on a USB drive, and plug that into the TV. Actually important firmware updates are so rare that I'm fine with the extra effort required.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    i dont have an LG, but I've only had to firmware update 1 TV in like.. the past 13 years, and that was because it had a horrible issue with the image vertically splitting in half and green corruption across the bottom. Which makes you think hardware failure, but it wasnt, the firmware update 100% fixed it for the rest of its life.

    So unless you are facing a major, catastrophic issue like that, I'd say fuck updates.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    yeah, i don't have any desire to update my TV as long as I can plug in HDMI and get a picture and sound

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Exactly. If it's displaying the line-in correctly, I don't see what a firmware update would bring to the table.

    It's a display. Once it's achieved being able to act like that, then you should be done for as long as the hardware lasts.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I bought an LG a little while back. Looks good, no need to connect it to the Internet, you can turn on and off all the features you do or don't want.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Hell yeah. I was considering a C5, but saw people online saying ads are present on LG.

    I use shield anyway, but I will probably just follow your advice and set default input to the shield

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Mine doesn't have ads. But like I said, I've never connected it to the Internet, so I don't know if it would start showing them if I did. I just use a Chromecast, my Switch, or an antenna.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I have one connected to the internet due to WAF, but I never signed into an LG account on it. As a result, the "home" page just shows something about signing in "for the full experience" rather than any ads.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    LG OLEDs are still great. Mine is not connected to the internet and use an external media box (AppleTV). It can be set to turn on to the last used HDMI input instead of the Home Screen. I never see the LG OS.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Plasma burn-in is scary for games.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah I'm still using the last of the good Panasonic VT50 models. It's still going strong with a great picture. We got it in 2009. It's early smart features were retired long ago.

    These articles make me shudder what I might replace it with

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I have one in my room. It gets pretty hot with it and my PS3 running, and I live in Minnesota and sleep in the basement

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  • [+] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Lol yeah I suppose. Funny story how I got my PS3, I was on ebay and there was a "broken" one listed on ebay for a dollar. The seller said the blu-ray drive wasn't working and replacing it didn't help. That was a good day to be me, I tell ya

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well what about a PC monitor? You can get u to like 43" and beyond. Obviously they are great for gaming as well.

    The other very impractical mention - after TVs starting adding ads, cameras and microphones, I switched to a 2nd hand projector. Most have no smart features.

    All you need is a white or off- white wall to protect on to. And the ability to block some light coming into the room.

    Downsides:

    • They can be bulky and noisy. Particularly the 4k ones
    • might need separate speakers
    • Not as low latency as a tv but models do come with VRR
    • bulbs do get darker from prolonged use (and aren't always cheap to replace)
    • you might need separate speakers
    • and there are the trailing cables
    • And you'll never get the inky blacks of oleds. But for picture size and immersion for the cost, they are basically unbeatable.

    Some can project from a coffee table.

    For tv series and YouTube like content, I use a laptop. Then for big movies, I use the projector and 5.1 sound system (mostly 2nd hand as well.)

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    projectors are just not a practical recommendation for most people. unless you take pretty drastic measures to set up your room like a proper theater, the picture quality will be drastically worse than an average TV.

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