for those not familiar with Mark Pilgrim, he is/was a prolific author, blogger, and hacker who abruptly disappeared from the internet in 2011.

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[–] 49 points 8 months ago (13 children)

If the llm they used was trained on the original code, the result was not legally rewritten. To change licensing without buy in from all original authors, the new code must be fully original from spec. Ignoring the legal definitions for convenience opens the door for corporations to steal open source and copyleft materials and strip away the licensing requirements.

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  • [+] -38 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    That's a wild claim you're making. So far, it looks like the code is completely new, and for this case, it doesn't really matter where it comes from. New code - new license.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    okay, you have to be able to prove the LLM didn't learn off of the original source material. Because if it is, its dertivitve work, making it subject to LGPL.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Well, I do not have to, the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    That's valid in a debate, but not quite how courts work?

    I'm not a lawyer, just someone petty enough to read laws.

    The discovery requests in the law suit will require yo turn over all training data. From there, it will be up to the AI makers to prove that it wasn't used, if it was fed into training data. Which if it was open source, almost certainly was.

    That as side.

    Your making an equal claim that it wasn't. With an equal amount of proof. So what your sating bears as much weight as the other person.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I have not made any claims, and I am not affiliated with this project in any way. I don't know how this could be dealt with in court, or whether anyone will even bother with it.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You claim

    https://vger.to/lemmy.ml/comment/24346212

    That its completlt rewritten, with the implication that its not using the project as input.

    So yes, you do should back that up

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