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Religious and mystical literature is full of reports of encounters with aliens. (lazysoci.al)
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People also report seeing aliens while dreaming, meditating and under the influence of hallucinogens.

So there are aliens, just maybe not in the direction that is popularly assumed.

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[–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Ok, so how universalish? Gimme a percentage.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    99% or so. Leaving just a tiny bit of room for outliers which always seem to exist.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Is agreeing with the 99% important to you? Do you feel anxious when strange ideas crop up in your mind?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I meant that to have the subjective experience of aliens to be considered to have the same level of reality as emotions, 99% of people would have to experience it.

    I know I already experience things that vast majority of people don't. It doesn't bother me because there are people who experience things I don't. Consensus reality is fine for general use but the range of human experience is incredibly diverse.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You seem to bring up consensus as if it bears upon my post and then argue that it doesn't really bear. Maybe I'm not getting your point.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Just gave my view on the matter with precise language.

    I made a distinction between a description of a subjective experience, and a claim about consensus reality.

    People experience something and then use the best language available to talk about it. These experiences are viscerally real to the experiencer.

    Vast majority of people will reasonably make a claim about consensus reality if they experience something that feels very real. Because vast majority of people don't know or understand that you CAN have a very visceral subjective experience that only happens in the brain. Or to put it another way: the brain behaves in a way that gives one every reason to think the experience happened in consensus reality.

    It doesn't make them "crazy" or "stupid". But again, because most people don't understand the distinction between a subjective experience and consensus reality, it's easy to be dismissive of people who talk about outlandish experiences.

    It would be more rational and kind to meet in the middle: "I believe you had an experience, but I don't believe it means Aliens exist in consensus reality."

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago

    If you offer a party guest a bowl of ice-cream and then immediately assure him that it isn't tainted with semen, chances are the guest will pass on the ice cream.

    You see how that works?

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