They are mostly different people. One group of people comments on their desire for something open when something closed is mentioned, and another group comments on the downsides of something open when it's being discussed.

My problem with Sailfish is the UI is proprietary, which is a step back from Android. I also don't think this phone uses a mainline kernel, which limits long-term support to whenever their chosen LTS kernel goes EOL.

What I want is a phone that has a fully functional mainline Linux kernel, which currently does not exist. It'd be even better if the primary bootloader was replacable, similar to how coreboot can be installed on some laptops.

It is very nice to see a phone with a removable battery and a microSD card slot, though.

Most people care about convenience more than about Freedom.

But Sailfish does run Android apps.

There is a reason it’s a duopoly, making a competing phone eco system to rival two of the wealthiest companies in the world is not easy. Microsoft tried but even they didn’t have enough money. People need apps, because companies want us to use their apps and there are only two app stores, one is walled off so you basically have to run Android apps or convince every company to make an app for your OS. I’m not wealthy so I only buy a phone every 8-10 years… if I can’t ensure I can do my banking shopping and entertainment on my phone I can’t buy it, and every banking/shopping/entertainment site is designed to be terrible on a phone so they can get you to install their app.

I get what you mean, but I'm of the same sentiment: I don't need 1TB of internal space nor to play Cyberpunk on the go, I just need a simple phone for calls, texts, GPS, bank and other lght tasks, and I can't spend €650 for maybe half of those to work; it's frankly too much.

I have supported this project and intend to buy the phone.