▲ 294 ▼ As 75 Democrats Vote to Praise ICE, Ilhan Omar Wants to Hold Police Accountable for Protest Abuses (theintercept.com) submitted 1 year ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/usa@midwest.social 52 comments fedilink hide all child comments Trying to pass laws to defend protesters’ rights is a lonely battle on Capitol Hill.
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (14 children) That's how you earn fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (8 children) The people we voted for to stop fascism are voting with the fascists. And you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) They're not wrong. But we have to focus on step two of that equation which is primary everyone and not to let the people who carelessly support this keep their safe offices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) vote for fascism light because otherwise you'll get fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Unfortunately the lesser of two evils is the ONLY choice in a 2 party system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago there isn't really a lesser of two evils. when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Whatever you tell yourself to live with fascism. Go ahead and deflect that blame. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (8 children) The people we voted for to stop fascism are voting with the fascists. And you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) They're not wrong. But we have to focus on step two of that equation which is primary everyone and not to let the people who carelessly support this keep their safe offices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) They're not wrong. But we have to focus on step two of that equation which is primary everyone and not to let the people who carelessly support this keep their safe offices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children) And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them. Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? That is why I said "the party". Of course it’s going to be a fight There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'll remind you democrats are involved. Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) vote for fascism light because otherwise you'll get fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Unfortunately the lesser of two evils is the ONLY choice in a 2 party system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago there isn't really a lesser of two evils. when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Unfortunately the lesser of two evils is the ONLY choice in a 2 party system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago there isn't really a lesser of two evils. when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago there isn't really a lesser of two evils. when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Whatever you tell yourself to live with fascism. Go ahead and deflect that blame. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Whatever you tell yourself to live with fascism. Go ahead and deflect that blame. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against. permalink fedilink source parent