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Here we go again (lemmy.world)
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[+] -11 points 8 months ago (15 children)

not voting for genociders should be an obvious thing. only American liberals are so fucking morally bankrupt that they think genocide is something that can be excused.

Democrats better have learnt their lesson, because if next elections they run in a campaign to double down on genocide, they'll lose again.

don't blame the public for being disgusted by genocide, blame the candidates that masturbate at the sight of babies being blown up.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    my reply was probably too harsh. I'm tired of this argument. it's the choice america was given.

    Rapist pedo fascist who you could describe with almost any -ism/-ist, vs boring establishment evil. One more keen on healthcare reform, voting reform, like literally anything you could vaguely could construe as good vs the most stupid && cartoonishly evil foil an imagination could conjure. And here we are saying "Harris would be just as bad!" Like what??? She would be more inclined to take criticism and make changes from her party, which is the only one even remotely opposed to the atrocities in Gaza, let alone the other innumerable ways Trump and his idiot fucking fascists have damaged our infrastructure, bureaucracy, trust, etc.

    It's actually ridiculous to think we "punished" dems. We punished the palestinian people, brown people in america, Iranians, Ukranians -- you name it, we fucked it.

    we were presented with a baby grinding machine and instead of choosing the smaller one which is less efficient we chose a Henry Ford style baby smashing factory and held that we were morally superior. It's inane.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago

    that's because we keep voting for lesser evil, rewarding them and they become more evil, because they can get away with it.

    democratic need to learn that they need actual candidates, not corporate puppets. it got this bad because the "vote lesser evil" enabled it to get this bad.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    not voting is the same as voting for whoever wins.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    not voting throws your vote away. vote for a candidate that does not support genocide, voting for a genocidal candidate means you endorsed a genocide.

    if Democrats see a third party getting 2% of the vote they'll bend over backwards to coopt their policies, including not commiting a genocide.

    not voting third party is establishment propaganda, so you only vote for bribed corporate puppets.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    if Democrats see a third party getting 2% of the vote they’ll bend over backwards to coopt their policies, including not commiting a genocide.

    Do you not remember 2016

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Bernie wasn't a third party. and the Democrats did all they could to torpedo him, like they do with all the candidates, they chose corporate interests over the voter base. and in doing so, sold the American government to the highest bidder.

    they betrayed you and yet you think voting for them is the solution.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Bernie wasn’t a third party.

    ... Bernie didn't get 2% of the vote in the general election.

    Would you like to recite, for the class, the top 4 parties and their percentages in 2016?

    and the Democrats did all they could to torpedo him, like they do with all the candidates,

    "They did all they could to torpedo him"

    Yes, they forced millions of Democrats not to vote for him in 2016

    they betrayed you and yet you think voting for them is the solution.

    You insist that the electorate is in total agreement with you because you despise the idea that democracy might be a process that functions without your approval.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    given that this is the second time Democrats lost to the most unpopular candidates in American history, it seems like most Democrat voters agree with me

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    "Democrats lost to a far-right candidate" isn't the win for the "The electorate is secretly left-wing" argument that you think it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    it means the electorate can't stand thre Democratic establishment. and they must change. rather than their main campaign being "we aren't that guy"

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I don't disagree with that core point.

    Just... remember that voters in this country remain very right-wing. Even Dem voters. The DNC is shit, but it's not just them manipulating all the pliant little puppets. Gods know they aren't that competent. It's that there are 325 million people in this country and only a small percentage of them even think about politics on the level of... probably anyone here. On the level of, that's not even getting into agreement or disagreement.

    For most people, politics is a marginal concern. It shouldn't be, but it is. And right-wing media has made American social services - even vital ones - invisible. The old "Don't let government into my Medicare!" line comes to mind.

    The DNC is fucked. But the reason we keep getting shit candidates is because voters keep voting for shit candidates in the primaries, when we do have a broader selection.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Love how Democrats get hammered on things Republicans get a pass on.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Are you a special level of stupid? Democrats are supposed to be the opposition, that their whole branding. they should hey hammered for doing a fucking genocide, the same way Republicans are being hammered for doing a genocide and an ethnic cleansing on American soil.

    are you saying complaining about Democrats being AIPAC puppets is invalid if I don't also allocate the same amount of energy yelling at Republicans?

    That level of BS is understandable coming from someone who thinks genocide isn't a deal breaker.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Must have hit close to home if that got you riled up.

    It takes a special kind of stupid to take a candidate you agree with 90% of the time and hammer them twice as hard as you do their opponent. Thanks for withholding your vote in protest. That showed 'em.

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