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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children) We're here as stewards to this planet and all of her life. No, you are not. Just stop touching things and all is good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (11 children) And when you see an animal suffering and in need you just keep walking and pay it no mind? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children) Yeah. First rule in nature-related professions is generally to not touch. Careless touching can get the animal to be outcast or you to spread a sickness. And in the end, it's only to satisfy human kind instinct or morals anyway. But "touching" was meant metaphorically. Our understanding of the larger picture in nature is only starting to surface. And general consciousness is still far behind the influence we have on the world as a species. We have already created a garden world in europe (because it's the old continent) and have done a lot of damage in the process, the last few millennia, including "good practice" of managing woods creating only problems. In short: do not touch nature, unless you know exactly what you do. And we especially don't need to "manage" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (9 children) Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West is so cooked and we're sleepwalking into WWIII, lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 8 months ago* (3 children) lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. A good thing is to learn to differentiate between 'emotional/gut reactions' and 'empathy'. A simple example can help: who do you think is the most helpful person (aka, showing empathy) in that hypothetical situation: two witnesses faced with a tragic car accident involving a little kid being badly hurt. The first witness immediately starts crying all the tears of their body, running around and shouting 'omygodomygodthatishorrible!' (which, we will probably all agree, it is) and starts blaming the driver (which maybe is to blame, or maybe not) and calling them names? The second witness that focus the only thing that matters (which is not blaming anyone): the child that is hurt, and that immediately calls 911 and do it as calmly as possible in order to be able to describe as precisely as possible the exact situation to the emergency respondents? Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West Are you being serious? The comment you just replied to is one of of the most well grounded and sound I've read in way too long. Your... 'reaction' to it only demonstrates how badly we need to hear it a lot more often. A lot. Also, a warm 'hello' from the West, wherever you living your perfect and faultless existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (4 children) Wholly beside the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (11 children) And when you see an animal suffering and in need you just keep walking and pay it no mind? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children) Yeah. First rule in nature-related professions is generally to not touch. Careless touching can get the animal to be outcast or you to spread a sickness. And in the end, it's only to satisfy human kind instinct or morals anyway. But "touching" was meant metaphorically. Our understanding of the larger picture in nature is only starting to surface. And general consciousness is still far behind the influence we have on the world as a species. We have already created a garden world in europe (because it's the old continent) and have done a lot of damage in the process, the last few millennia, including "good practice" of managing woods creating only problems. In short: do not touch nature, unless you know exactly what you do. And we especially don't need to "manage" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (9 children) Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West is so cooked and we're sleepwalking into WWIII, lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 8 months ago* (3 children) lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. A good thing is to learn to differentiate between 'emotional/gut reactions' and 'empathy'. A simple example can help: who do you think is the most helpful person (aka, showing empathy) in that hypothetical situation: two witnesses faced with a tragic car accident involving a little kid being badly hurt. The first witness immediately starts crying all the tears of their body, running around and shouting 'omygodomygodthatishorrible!' (which, we will probably all agree, it is) and starts blaming the driver (which maybe is to blame, or maybe not) and calling them names? The second witness that focus the only thing that matters (which is not blaming anyone): the child that is hurt, and that immediately calls 911 and do it as calmly as possible in order to be able to describe as precisely as possible the exact situation to the emergency respondents? Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West Are you being serious? The comment you just replied to is one of of the most well grounded and sound I've read in way too long. Your... 'reaction' to it only demonstrates how badly we need to hear it a lot more often. A lot. Also, a warm 'hello' from the West, wherever you living your perfect and faultless existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (4 children) Wholly beside the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children) Yeah. First rule in nature-related professions is generally to not touch. Careless touching can get the animal to be outcast or you to spread a sickness. And in the end, it's only to satisfy human kind instinct or morals anyway. But "touching" was meant metaphorically. Our understanding of the larger picture in nature is only starting to surface. And general consciousness is still far behind the influence we have on the world as a species. We have already created a garden world in europe (because it's the old continent) and have done a lot of damage in the process, the last few millennia, including "good practice" of managing woods creating only problems. In short: do not touch nature, unless you know exactly what you do. And we especially don't need to "manage" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (9 children) Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West is so cooked and we're sleepwalking into WWIII, lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 8 months ago* (3 children) lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. A good thing is to learn to differentiate between 'emotional/gut reactions' and 'empathy'. A simple example can help: who do you think is the most helpful person (aka, showing empathy) in that hypothetical situation: two witnesses faced with a tragic car accident involving a little kid being badly hurt. The first witness immediately starts crying all the tears of their body, running around and shouting 'omygodomygodthatishorrible!' (which, we will probably all agree, it is) and starts blaming the driver (which maybe is to blame, or maybe not) and calling them names? The second witness that focus the only thing that matters (which is not blaming anyone): the child that is hurt, and that immediately calls 911 and do it as calmly as possible in order to be able to describe as precisely as possible the exact situation to the emergency respondents? Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West Are you being serious? The comment you just replied to is one of of the most well grounded and sound I've read in way too long. Your... 'reaction' to it only demonstrates how badly we need to hear it a lot more often. A lot. Also, a warm 'hello' from the West, wherever you living your perfect and faultless existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (4 children) Wholly beside the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (9 children) Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West is so cooked and we're sleepwalking into WWIII, lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 8 months ago* (3 children) lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. A good thing is to learn to differentiate between 'emotional/gut reactions' and 'empathy'. A simple example can help: who do you think is the most helpful person (aka, showing empathy) in that hypothetical situation: two witnesses faced with a tragic car accident involving a little kid being badly hurt. The first witness immediately starts crying all the tears of their body, running around and shouting 'omygodomygodthatishorrible!' (which, we will probably all agree, it is) and starts blaming the driver (which maybe is to blame, or maybe not) and calling them names? The second witness that focus the only thing that matters (which is not blaming anyone): the child that is hurt, and that immediately calls 911 and do it as calmly as possible in order to be able to describe as precisely as possible the exact situation to the emergency respondents? Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West Are you being serious? The comment you just replied to is one of of the most well grounded and sound I've read in way too long. Your... 'reaction' to it only demonstrates how badly we need to hear it a lot more often. A lot. Also, a warm 'hello' from the West, wherever you living your perfect and faultless existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (4 children) Wholly beside the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 8 months ago* (3 children) lack of empathy and total apathy. I guess this is what we deserve. A good thing is to learn to differentiate between 'emotional/gut reactions' and 'empathy'. A simple example can help: who do you think is the most helpful person (aka, showing empathy) in that hypothetical situation: two witnesses faced with a tragic car accident involving a little kid being badly hurt. The first witness immediately starts crying all the tears of their body, running around and shouting 'omygodomygodthatishorrible!' (which, we will probably all agree, it is) and starts blaming the driver (which maybe is to blame, or maybe not) and calling them names? The second witness that focus the only thing that matters (which is not blaming anyone): the child that is hurt, and that immediately calls 911 and do it as calmly as possible in order to be able to describe as precisely as possible the exact situation to the emergency respondents? Ah, this helps put into perspective why the West Are you being serious? The comment you just replied to is one of of the most well grounded and sound I've read in way too long. Your... 'reaction' to it only demonstrates how badly we need to hear it a lot more often. A lot. Also, a warm 'hello' from the West, wherever you living your perfect and faultless existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) Ha, certainly I was being a bit hyperbolic. Still, I will help any animal wounded and not actively being pursued by a predator. You can denigrate me for that if you'd like, but I can't stand to see any life suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) You can denigrate for that if you’d like, I'm not the one telling people they're bad persons because they show no sign of what you call 'empathy' and then explain it was just 'being a bit hyperbolic'. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago o7 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (4 children) Wholly beside the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (3 children) Not really. It's all human nature. Some have empathy and others don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children) Which is beside my point. And acting on empathy while creating damage is egoistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) Damage by your standard. Saving a life by mine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago If you know what you do. Which is great. But my point is; we, generally as a species and in nature the last few centuries, we did not. And still touched. permalink fedilink source parent