▲ 458 ▼ MSI's $80 AMD motherboards with DDR4 support swoop in to rescue gamers amid the global RAM crisis (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 8 months ago by RegularJoe@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 100 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 126 points 8 months ago (10 children) Ah, AM4. At 10 years old, it's still the platform that keeps on giving. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago (6 children) And I'll be running it for at least another ten... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 19 points 8 months ago (5 children) Still runs everything well, so why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children) Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that's the entire goal of inflation targeting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent [–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago (2 children) I'm running an AM4 Ryzen 9, with 64Gb of DDR4, and the thing cooks. AM4 is just great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago I've been happily sitting on my R5 2600x for so many years now lol. My MB is an MSI B450 Pro Carbon and it can easily handle a 5950x or 5800x3D or whatever. Add another 2x8 gb ddr4 for 32GB total and I'll be seeing some insane performance relative to what I'm already happy with, which will last me another 5 years easily unless the mobo dies. It's really insane how well designed AM4 is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago 3 of my 4 desktops are running AM4. My main rig has a 5950x, the home theater PC has a 5500 and my wife's gaming rig has a 5600. I rebuilt the HTPC several months ago and specifically went with AM4 for price to performance (and because it's a Linux box) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago (6 children) And I'll be running it for at least another ten... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 19 points 8 months ago (5 children) Still runs everything well, so why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children) Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that's the entire goal of inflation targeting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 19 points 8 months ago (5 children) Still runs everything well, so why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children) Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that's the entire goal of inflation targeting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children) Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that's the entire goal of inflation targeting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare? Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago (2 children) I'm running an AM4 Ryzen 9, with 64Gb of DDR4, and the thing cooks. AM4 is just great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago I've been happily sitting on my R5 2600x for so many years now lol. My MB is an MSI B450 Pro Carbon and it can easily handle a 5950x or 5800x3D or whatever. Add another 2x8 gb ddr4 for 32GB total and I'll be seeing some insane performance relative to what I'm already happy with, which will last me another 5 years easily unless the mobo dies. It's really insane how well designed AM4 is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago 3 of my 4 desktops are running AM4. My main rig has a 5950x, the home theater PC has a 5500 and my wife's gaming rig has a 5600. I rebuilt the HTPC several months ago and specifically went with AM4 for price to performance (and because it's a Linux box) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago I've been happily sitting on my R5 2600x for so many years now lol. My MB is an MSI B450 Pro Carbon and it can easily handle a 5950x or 5800x3D or whatever. Add another 2x8 gb ddr4 for 32GB total and I'll be seeing some insane performance relative to what I'm already happy with, which will last me another 5 years easily unless the mobo dies. It's really insane how well designed AM4 is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago 3 of my 4 desktops are running AM4. My main rig has a 5950x, the home theater PC has a 5500 and my wife's gaming rig has a 5600. I rebuilt the HTPC several months ago and specifically went with AM4 for price to performance (and because it's a Linux box) permalink fedilink source parent