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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Why didn't Chuck Schumer do more to stop this?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    He got many non-budgetary provisions out from the Byrd rule, which is essentially enforcing the rules that allow the thin Republican majority to pass a budget.

    But the Republican Senate also made up an accounting magic trick to pretend that a several trillion dollar budget line item has no effect on the deficit. And pretended that this is now a rule because 51 senators think this is a good idea.

    Senate Democrats did virtually everything within the legislative process that they could on their own.

    House Leader Jeffries did at least delay the vote for 8 hours, 44 minutes to talk about the bill, and bring it to the afternoon news cycle instead of at 4am.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

    Every democrat and one republican voted agianst this bill.

    What else do you think they can do?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Remove some Republicans from office via the 14th amendment.

    Lead protests. Not just parades but actual disruptive protests

    Back left wing candidates

    Use any and all procedural tricks to delay things.

    other stuff that moderators don't like

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I don't understand why literally every Democrat in the Senate didn't line up to filibuster this bill. Booker's performative filibuster was toothless. This could actually have done something to change public policy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    You can't filibuster a bill using the reconciliation process.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In my imagination there are increasingly desperate actions they could do to stop the bill from proceeding. Pull the fire alarm. Start a fire. Cover all the chairs with honey. I don't know. I feel like if it looked like a portal to hell was about to open I would break a lot of norms and rules to stop it

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Apparently they’re not even allowed an open floor to talk, but Hakeem Jeffries at least took the opportunity for 08:44

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    That's the house, and only because it was a bill passed back to the house, after previous passage, to review senate revisions. Otherwise they would have been allowed to debate much more if this was the first time the house had the bill.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    It's not just your imagination. Think back to the last 8 years and how much horseshit has come out that "wasn't law" but was allowed. That same thinking and action could easily be applied by the opposition, but it turns out the opposition is a wet paper towel.

    I'm not smart enough to steer this, but there has to be a group trying to put together a legitimate third party. Let's talk about that. Anytime theres a fucking comical issue upfront, talk about that, and don't relent.

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Yes. Because it was filibustered for a day.

    "They did the thing i wanted but i said they didn't and i don't understand why people don't agree with me"

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    You already know the reason, someone else already said why. I'm not going to get drawn into a circlejerk argument with you just because you refuse reality.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How does backing canisates do anything to stop a bill?

    What are "moderators" in government?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I meant more generally, so democrats can win elections and then win votes. It's something they should have been doing for the past decade. Look at how the democratic party is treating Zohran for an example of how not to do it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Maybe next time and everytime go out and vote blue so they have even a chance of doing something to stop it.

    Elections have consequences.

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