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[–] 26 points 8 months ago (43 children)

Honestly this is the worst part of Lemmy...

Freaks complaining about imaginary tankies, it's insane.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago* (8 children)

    imaginary tankies

    They aren't imaginary, I'm not sure what world you live in but there are definitely a ton on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I'm new here. What's a tankie?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    As I understand it: left leaning (usually extreme left) users who idolise the Chinese government. Tankie is a reference to the Tienanmen Square protests and massacre, and specifically to the “tank man”. I’m not sure how that got associated with pro-CPR users though, as the protests were very much against that government.

    Edit: check out the replies to my reply for a different and likely more correct explanation.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    No, tankie is a reference to Soviets using tanks to quell uprisings in Hungary (1956) and Czechoslovakia (1968).

    Tankies are not leftists, they're authoritarian simps that hate the United States and love China/Russia. If you think Russia is leftist you're insane, doubly so for China.

    Edit: I also find it funny that the person I'm responding to has had this explanation given to them already.

    Edit 2: Ok that may have been an honest mistake, I'm sorry I'm just like a raw nerve when it comes to this topic.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    It was actually the Hungarian student rebellion. Young Hungarians wanted to vote out their Soviet puppet leaders and elect new leadership. It's important to point out the leaders they wanted were still communists. The Soviets sent in tanks to crush the movement.

    British communists were disgusted by some of their fellow communists that were cheering on this violent oppression and started calling them tankies.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Lemmy was literally made by someone who took the moniker of a genocidal warlord btw

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Could you please elaborate a little?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    Dessalines is the one who made Lemmy. Jean-Jacques Dessalines was a genocidal maniac. Modern tankies like him because some of the targets of his genocide were slave owners.

    Edit: manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml sent me a DM calling me a fascist for liking Rush lmfao

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I live not far away from a metro station called "Robespierre", and I don't think you could call him a nice guy. Context matters.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Context matters, but I'll go ahead and be a moral absolutist here and say that there is no context that justifies cutting children's heads off. Never heard of Robespierre, but if he was as bad as Dessalines, then I'd say he probably shouldn't have a metro station named after him

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The targets of his genocide were slave owners?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    I have seen some absolutely idiotic "socialist" takes on Lemmy (usually just dumb ass takes based on false premises like "food is free in nature, why isn't it free now?") but yeah the amount of complaining about "tankies" is like 10x the amount of actual "tankie" content I see. Really just blocking lemmy.ml takes care of 99% of the issue if you really hate seeing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    The argument "food is free in nature and should therefore be free" isn't a good argument. There is however one to be made for "with the level of technological advancement we've achieved at present, food shouldn't be as inaccessible as it currently is"

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    Right, but I have seen massive arguments on Lemmy over this topic. The argument you made is actually well thought out and makes sense, while the one I mentioned is stupid and doesn't withstand even the smallest amount of basic thought.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    but yeah the amount of complaining about “tankies” is like 10x the amount of actual “tankie” content I see

    Any time .ml users get wind of a thread they can bootlick in, they tend to swarm it. Hell, here's one from a user in this very comment section just a few days ago, on a major comm:

    And I mean, fuck, man, .ml's memes comm, which is still one of the larger comms on the Fediverse, hardly goes a day without boot-throating tankie shite.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    my only worry about is that if they are the main developers, what if they start abusing that position?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    My main question is: what makes you think they aren't already doing that?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I havent seen any evidence or mentions of it

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I have seen post after post on Meanwhile on Grad about Dessalines abusing his power, you probably aren't aware of it because by the time you see it all you end up seeing are users like Cowbee monologuing to the void.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    ffs, why cant there be anything nice in this world.. everything has to have some downside or looming problem. How can i even recommend lemmy to people if there is a problem of " yea, its main developers are crazy tankies, but maybe its going to be okay?"

    Though by now i hope there are enough interested developers in lemmy in general that hopefully it can be branched if things get too bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Just recommend piefed to them.

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    Because it's a pejorative term it gets applied to all sorts of different people but the basic idea is a leftist who believes the USSR and other communist nations did nothing wrong and that the worst human rights abuses of those regimes were either justified or completely made up. I believe the term "tankie" comes from the idea that they believe the guys in the tanks at Tiananmen Square were in the right. The term is usually levied against certain leftists by other leftists more than by people on the right, because people on the right just think that's how all leftists are.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    I believe the term “tankie” comes from the idea that they believe the guys in the tanks at Tiananmen Square were in the right.

    From the Wiki:

    The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

    The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.[6][7] The term has extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the actions of communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context to accuse individuals of having a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states, or states with a socialist legacy; Belarus, Cuba, China,[8][9] Iran,[10] Nicaragua, Ba'athist Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela serve as prevalent examples.

    The tanks they supported & were named after were not Tiananmen Square, but actually 30 years earlier when the USSR crushed the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.

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