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NYC Vs. Tokyo (hilariouschaos.com)
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[–] 4 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Japan doesn’t have socialized medicine. They have universal care. The government pays 70%. The user pays 30%. The insurance is provided through your employer. The doctors are private practice and not government employees. Guns are not banned but heavily restricted.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Japan doesn’t have socialized medicine. They havle universal care. The government pays 70%.

    So the payment for healthcare is socialised. In low income households the government waives the 30% copay. Everyone is covered by law and fees are set by the government. All hospitals must be run as non-profits.

    Guns are not banned but heavily restricted.

    Handguns are completely banned which are the type of gun used in most crimes in the US. Rifles and shotguns are heavily restricted.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (12 children)

    No, the health care does not meet the criteria for socialized medicine unless you want to ignore the meaning of words to create a new definition. Using your definition, America has socialized medicine. The Japanese system is closer to the American system than it is to the NHS, which is a socialized system.

    I said firearms are restricted. That isn't the same thing as a ban. The main reason Japan has such a low crime rate is its very conservative society.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    If a Democrat put an exact copy of the Japanese healthcare system into a bill before US Congress, Republicans would be screaming it's socialism.

    The main reason Japan has such a low crime rate is its very conservative society.

    South Africa has a very conservative society too.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (10 children)

    The system isn't that different than the American system. To call in a socialist system is factually wrong. The doctors are in private practice. The employer provides your insurance. If you can't afford it or are elderly, it is provided. We have Medicaid and Medicare, which are the same thing. The only difference is that they are 70/30, and we are 80/20 in most cases. If they proposed that system in America, it would be a step backwards for most people.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (9 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (8 children)

    and? None of this has anything to do with Japan.

    I am against Socialized healthcare. The NHS is a failure. Our current system works fine for most Americans. What many American don't realize is we pay less in taxes but in return we pay at the time of use.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    Our current system works fine for most Americans.

    That statement alone discredits everything you say. "A record 23 % of Americans believe the United States healthcare system is “in a state of crisis” and 47% think it has “major problems,” according to a recent poll from the West Health-Gallup Center on Healthcare in America."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/31/healthcare-americans-poll-data-insurance

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    Thanks for proving my point 23% this there is a crisis. That means more people do not think it is in crisis. Which means, it is working fine for most Americans

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    23% think it's in major crisis and 47% think it has major problems. That's 70% who don't think the system is good. It proves you are wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yet over 70% are happy with theirs. Did you read the whole poll?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, it doesn't say what you claim anywhere. Can you explain how you came to the 70% figure?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Only asking people with health insurance if they are happy with the American healthcare system is a bit like asking people in a boat if they are drowning. Ask the 8% of the population and more than 11% of American adults who don't have health insurance what they think of the system. And that data is prior to implementation of Trump's OBBBA which kicks 10-15 million people off Medicaid/Medicare.

    Edit : I would also question the reliability of data coming from a source called "SurveyMonkey".

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Our system is good. People like to whine because they don’t get the alternative is doubling our taxes.

    I’m fine with the system. As survey after survey has shown most of us are.

    You thought Japan had a socialist system without realizing it’s more similar to ours. I wouldn’t be taking insurance advice from you.

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