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How to find nazis (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 22 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

It's so funny how you're using so many words, going out of your way spreading what you think is some ultra deep next level wisdom - just to somehow justify why it's ok to be triggered by 'fuck nazis'.

Just so you know, a normal person see this, shrugs and is already on their way to the next thing on their mind. You don't have to have a political agenda to not be triggered by this.

You're so simple minded that you don't notice how you're hooked by this primitive mind trick.

And that you want to sound like some intellectual on top of that is just so hilarious.

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  • [+] -16 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    justify why it’s ok to be triggered by ‘fuck nazis’.

    nobody here is arguing this. because you can't interpret the words doesn't mean they actually mean this.

    "fuck nazis" -> good

    "if i call your group nazis, and you get offended, you're a nazi." -> bad

    "don't call people you disagree with nazis" is a response to the second example. conflating it with the first is the problem.

    and i talk about it because it is important for antifascists to comprehend what framing is when it used against them. and maybe shit wouldn't be half as bad if americans were socialized into comprehending and using more big words, so they can tell the difference between jordan peterson bullshit and actual attempts to communicate more complicated topics.

    hard to talk about the issues if people don't socialize the words and concepts around them.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Haha, you still don't get it.

    So let me explain it to you, real slow and simple.

    The meme instructs you to post 'fuck nazis' and wait for reactions. There is no engaging besides that one statement. No other context. No discussion. Just this two words.

    There is absolutely no reason to react to 'fuck nazis' with some deep philosophical discussion on how it might be problematic to call people nazis.

    This might sound wild to you, so believe it or not, but next to nobody on the planet is being called a nazi. That's not an experience the average person makes.

    So it's very telling when you actually are triggered. You are forcing a discussion on us nobody asked for.

    It's so painfully obvious.

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  • [+] -11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    as i said,

    the meme does NOT say to call out people offended by "fuck nazis"

    there would be no issue if it said that. we all agree with that.

    it says to call out people who are offended by being called nazis,

    and people who call out the incorrect framing are conflated with arguing a non-existent point, because comprehending framing is too much work i guess

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Lol. No it doesn't.

    Here is what it literally says:

    1. Post 'fuck nazis'.
    2. Watch for the 'don't call people you disagree with nazis!' comments.
    3. You found the nazis.

    Nowhere does it tell you to call out people. The second point tells you to watch for specific kind of comments. That's 100% passive.

    You know, exactly those kind of comments you provided.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    "i'm going to ignore all of your points and simplify things again in a way that's convenient for me." literally what MAGA cultists do.

    "don't call people you disagree with nazis!" is unfortunately also what people say when people call non-nazis 'nazis,' such as progressive groups like feminists or atheists.

    now suddenly both are nazis? and they have to fight each-other instead of the heritage foundation?

    why can't a single person here actually engage with this part of the conversation instead of the made up one they want to simplify to?

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Lol, you're funny. Nobody is calling anybody a nazi here. Only people outing themselves.

    Let me spell it out for you again: being called a nazi is not some common experience people make. In general, people don't feel like this is some huge problem that needs a broad discussion.

    And of course I'm sure as fuck not engaging in your straw man discussions, haha. 'Uhhh, don't call people something they're not, uhhh'. We're not kindergarten children.

    It's funny to see you desperately trying to justify why the fuck you are so triggered by this to such an extent.

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