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Borrowing money against their stuff to get more stuff to borrow money... (discuss.online)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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[–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why is "permanent utopia" the criterion? I don't know of any political system that claims there will be a "permanent utopia", except maybe dreams of what communism might one day be like.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well, permanent because if it gets destroyed it you can't call it successful, and utopia because you need an ideal to measure success against even if its not realistically achievable.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Were carrier pigeons not successful? Just because something is discontinued, doesn't mean it was not successful for its time when it was deployed?

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