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Thanks a lot, AI: Hard drives are already sold out for the entire year, says Western Digital (mashable.com)
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[–] 180 points 8 months ago (30 children)

Wait til all these projects crash, burn, and get liquidated. Gonna be an amazing secondary market for brand new, unused bulk hardware.

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  • [–] 109 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    But you won't be able to afford it because the market crash means you lose your job.

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  • [–] 105 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I think people don't realise that if AI fails, it's pretty much guaranteed to collapse the US economy.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Meh, not really a full collapse. Just like 75% of it and a huuuuge recession. Or maybe a "Tiny Depression"? Basically, 10 years to recover. Which is where we're going anyway, with or without AI.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Not really. They're not making consumer grade stuff, they're making hardware for data centers so unless you're planning on doing a DIY data center you're not buying the hardware. Hard drives are likely an exception.

    You're more likely to see cheap VPS services than cheap secondhand hardware.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've watched enough Bringus to know that anything can be used for gaming if you're stubborn enough.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Oh absolutely, but I doubt anyone is paying the equivalent of a 5090 to get the performance of a 3060. Server GPU-s aren't optimized for gaming.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    Sure but that will only be in the immediate, especially as the manufacturers rush to trying to produce consumer and industry shit once the AI cow goes bust. There'll be an immediate rush of these things being sold 5090 prices only to drop down to 1090 or lower prices once they start liquidating stock to write off and the scrappers start selling these things for pennies on the dollar.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know many people buy used server and JBODs. I wouldn't say that consumers don't buy them.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Being in the self-hosted community I know people buy used enterprise servers to set up their own services, but consumers who buy enterprise servers probably make up less than 1% of all the consumers who buy hardware.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Yes, of course

    Except, i doubt anyone will be doing much with a 32 code Xenon CPU Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs

    And the cuda only fanless and outputless GPU will also be kinda useless, especially because they all need a special setup to force feed air through the entire rack to not overheat

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    I mean it’s 64/128/256 cores for home/pro/workstation so not really. People buying aftermarket server parts that want windows can probably figure out how to type irm https://get.activated.win/ | iex if they don’t want to pay for it anyways lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Windows snobs cant even run Windows on without a super giga 1000€ license for more than 16 Core CPUs

    I'm not using Windows servers at home but if I did then a license wouldn't be a factor when deciding what hardware to buy.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    And on top: ROK ISOs by hardware vendors by HPE (and probably lenovo) don't have the trial time limit and can be run indefinitely without a license.
    You only need to satisfy the requirement of running a supported motherboard during boot of the iso.
    Well...Too bad that I can (unlike in ESXi) modify the manufacturer string in proxmox to say whatever I want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Could you point me to more info about that?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    At work we sell servers by HPE.
    We create Install-ISOs from the included install ISO.

    At boot the Installer checks if the system is manufactured by the vendor.
    If it is: It continues boot and offers you the installer options
    If it is not: It will fail with a message that the manufacturer doesnt match.

    On ESXi you need to pass the argument smbios.reflectHost = true (or something along those lines)

    Dunno how HPE customized the install.wim
    But you can probably get those for cheap on ebay and maybe compare the wims for differences.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I've reinstalled Windows on Dells and it just works without any hassle because it reads something in the bios that says it already has a Windows license. I was wondering what it reads that would be configured in Proxmox to allow the same. I would be nice to be able to create a Windows VM on the fly without any license setup or license bypass tricks during/after install. Instead it would just work because Proxmox tells it to.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Once installed it doesnt bother anymore with those checks.
    So right now my state is essentially an eternal windows VM that doesnt let me change the wallpaper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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