What we have called “motorcycles” should actually be called “enginecycles”. Also, the engine on enginecycles is a four-cycle engine.

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[–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

The difference is in power and control. Ebikes are speed capped. There are two types, pedal assist and throttle control. Pedel assist are ones that only turn on the motor when you are pedaling. Throttle control ebikes are speed capped even more than pedal assist. I think they should be banned because of jailbreaking and it puts you in the mental state of operating a machine rather than pedaling a bike.

Also, the engine on enginecycles is a four-cycle engine.

Electric motorbikes are a thing too.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    You can buy e-bikes on amazon that weigh more and travel faster than a Honda Cub, a registerable motorcycle. They're in Grom territory. This idea, at least in the US market, that they're fitting into the two classes of safe e-bike is disproven with 30 seconds of observation in any city or adjacent suburb. The only riders pedaling are the leisure riders in parks.

    Fortnine has two videos on the topic, one of the 60mph e-bike and one of converting a Cub to EV, making it faster than stock.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Yes you can buy illegal things and break the law. Like really?

    Or you're talking about electric motorbikes, which are not ebikes they are electric motorbikes.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No, I'm talking about non-registerable electric bicycles with pedals as intended by the post. I'm not talking about highway-legal electric motorcycles like Zero. Yes, you can buy illegal vehicles. People do. The laws are not enforced in the US. So if a law bans highway-speed bicycles but no one is around to enforce it and users continually break this unenforced law, then the distinction about the safe versions of e-bikes being woefully slower than regulated motorcycles is moot. The actual e-bike user base has demonstrable overlap with highway-legal motorcycles.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    So back to my first point:

    Yes you can buy illegal things and break the law. Like really?

    JFC.

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