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The DOJ excluded images showing "death, physical abuse or injury" from Epstein files release. (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 2 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

Wait I thought to be a true "snuff film" it had to be like an actual scripted narrative film with like "filmmakers" wherein someone is murdered on screen for real, not just home murder movies, am I wrong? If any recorded murder counts then of course there's snuff films, 3 guys 1 hammer comes to mind, BTK, etc, but I thought it had to be like a proper movie.

If I'm right then this is more of a home movie/blackmail material situation, I don't think they have like a secret Woody Allen film (though nothing is impossible, he's in the files, they could.)

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There are a lot of homemade snuff films unfortunately, what is this 3 guys 1 hammer although I hesitate to ask?

    I saw a gruesome one of a prison riot in south america, I didn't know what it was right away, as they had like gauze wrapped around this guy's head to look like a mummy, and were boxcuttering his neck, took me like 10 seconds to realize what it was. Sick shit.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    3 guys 1 hammer is a video of some kids killing a guy, but there's no plot so I don't think it counts as a "snuff film," and by "homemade snuff films" do you mean they have a plot and some production value, lighting, scripting, and someone dies, or do you mean "murder that was filmed?" Because that's kinda my point I don't know if it counts without a plot.

    gruesome one of a prison riot in south america,

    See from this description I don't count that as a "snuff film," and I'm questioning if it counts, because of course "filmed death" isn't a myth, there's countless examples. A quick search defines "snuff films" as:

    snuff film

    noun

    A movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide

    A film that shows, or purports to show, the actual deliberate killing of one of the performers.

    So that seems to suggest that I'm right.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    No. The term applies to any video footage of somebody actually dying, as opposed to a film where the death is staged.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    snuff film

    noun

    A movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide

    A film that shows, or purports to show, the actual deliberate killing of one of the performers.

    Sorry but no, that is the misconception I'm speaking of. Back when this was originally posted months ago it prompted me to look it up, finding the definition, which quite clearly through the use of the words "actor" and "performers" does differentiate it from simple videos of death/murder to mean a scripted work that contains a death/murder. Which makes more sense in the "snuff films are a myth" context, because quite clearly "videos of death" are verifiably real, which would put that entire debate to rest.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Dictionary.com disagrees.

    Edit: terms and words have multiple definitions, and change over time.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Does it though?

    Slang. a pornographic film that shows an actual murder of one of the performers, as at the end of a sadistic act.

    splatter film (a film containing many scenes of violent and gruesome murders.)

    It just narrows it further, claiming it has to be pornographic, or multiple murders, or collections like faces of death at the most generous interpretation.

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