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The WHOLE system? Do you promise? (lemmy.world)
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[–] 58 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

Yes.

The thing is if it was true that prosecuting individuals would cause issues (it isn't true at all) then it pretty much proves that the system is fundamentally broken and needs to change asap.
If any one person can say "hey, I think I'll murder that baby over there because I can get away with it...Haha, I'm needed too much, haha. No one will do anything to stop me." then we all may as well just go back to doing sacrifices at altars.

That disgusting bitch is being wildly dramatic, because if we were to get all the paedos in the tRUMP-Epstein files and guillotine them tomorrow nothing much will collapse.
Nothing.
Yeah, ok, there will be some blips whilst those power vacuums are filled. No collapse though.

When the fat kiddie fiddler dies (or before, please) then her and enablers like her deserve justice. Prison if you want, but something more painful and permanent is also acceptable.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I struggle to think of an appropriate "punishment" for such people, because I don't have the wisdom and vision to see how they can be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society. How can they be? So reluctantly I find myself thinking of capital punishment - how else to make safe a democracy from its most powerful avowed enemies?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I think this is probably the one and only time I could get behind slave labor, since it’s explicitly allowed in exactly this way (absolutely should not be, but maybe the rich wouldn’t support that anymore if they saw this happen, and we could get rid of it). Keeping them alive on the public dime with no hope for them being rehabilitated isn’t a great option, but I’m not a fan of death penalty either. That’s too easy.

    I say we put them to work on projects to support marginalized communities, especially shit jobs nobody else wants to do. No pay, no perks, just labor in service of the public they wronged. Maybe have them cleaning chemically-damaged sites so they can be used for something good. That sounds good since they directly profit from pollution now.

    Quietly move them from place to place so they can’t stay in contact with other powerful people, and maybe that would do it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    This is why I recuse myself from it, I can't think of a verdict that's entirely focused on rehabilitation instead of vengeance, but I do believe that any justice system worth submitting to should only be concerned with interventions that treat the disease and the symptom without prejudice. If someone is totally against that idea of society, don't you just destroy them as humanely as possible?

    Éleuthère Irénée du Pont was very nearly executed during the reign of terror. It ended and his life was spared, only for him to go on to found one of America's most deadly family legacies and one of, if not the most wealthy and influential American family currently. Pity and clemency are noble virtues, but it is sometimes difficult to bear their erstwhile mistakes.

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