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[–] 36 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Democrats are just paid opposition. There’s a few good ones but the majority are bad

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  • [+] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    I generally consider these people who reject AIPAC money good. Unfortunately, they are far outnumbered

    Ro kahna, illian Omar, pramala jayapal, Adelita GRIJalva, LATEEFAH SIMON, Maxine Waters, MAXWELL FROST, DELIA RAMIREZ, JESÚS CHUY GARCÍA, ANDRÉ CARSON, THOMAS MASSIE, CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, ELIZABETH WARREN, AYANNA PRESSLEY, RASHIDA TLAIB, BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, NYDIA VELAZQUEZ, JEFF MERKLEY, SUMMER LEE, AL GREEN, GREG CASAR, PETER WELCH, BECCA BALINT, MARK POCAN

    https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    AOC voted to fund the Zionazi entity. If that's your metric of "good" then you need to demand more.

    Bernie is a liberal Zionist who grew up in Israel and refused to call it a genocide until the UN did. And I say that as someone who donated plenty to him in 2016.

    Zohran seems pretty cool so far, though denouncing the Palestinian resistance was weak as hell.

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago* (7 children)
  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    So what do we do when they don't have any excuses left? Because they're sure as shit not going to fix anything whether they're able to or not. This is a Capitalist country - people work for money and nothing else, and most of Democrat's money comes from donations from tech and finance giants who love the free reign they're being given right now. As soon as the Democrats accepted that money it literally became their job to keep things the same for the benefit of their benefactors. On paper they're against the far right, but money supersedes all of that.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    You do? I certainly don't. I think people will vote Democrat even as the gap between them and the Republicans closes more and more, to the point where they only know which is which by the color of their logo. That's the issue with voting not for a person, and not for a set of ideals, but for the simple concept of "anything but the worst possible outcome," especially in a world where the worst possible outcome keeps getting worse and worse.

    I picture a world 30 years from now where we're celebrating a win for a Democrat candidate who's exactly like Donald Trump, because his Republican opponent is somehow even worse, all while the corporations that fund both parties celebrate 300% yearly growth. We need to vote blue, not because Democrats will do anything, but because things at least won't get worse as we continue to organize the revolution. To wait and see what they do is to waste time that would be better served organizing.

    We shouldn't be singing the praises of Democrats, because they are just as integral of a part of the system as their opponents, and it will all need to be torn down before things can be rebuilt. The biggest hurdle is going to be getting people like you to let go of your everlasting hope that somehow there's still a slight chance that all Democrats will suddenly become different people and decide not to do the very thing they got into politics to do - to get their very own bag of blood money.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    If the DNC had more than 48 seats for the first time in over 13 years they wouldn’t have any excuses left.

    You mean like when they had a supermajority under Obama and did nothing to codify abortion protections, resulting in Trump being able to largely repeal them?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If the DNC had more than 48 seats

    Their caucus had 50.

    The ones who voted with republicans were DEMOCRATS, not the independents who caucus with the party.

    Now stop lying for the enablers of fascism just because you love the results.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Reminder that an IND stopped the DNC from passing real healthcare reform in 2010

    And suddenly we're not talking about the past 13 years now that it's convenient for you. Fine. The independent that made sure people went bankrupt and die for you was democrat enough to be Al Gore's running mate in 2000. He counted then but since we needed a villain to rotate in to make sure sick people die like you and all centrists demand, he's conveniently an independent. He also had the help of Ben Nelson, a Democrat. Congratulations on all the unnecessary death. Your portion of the caucus is justifiably proud of all the blood on your hands.

    So for an encore, centrists supported genocide. You're just republicans who want people to pretend you're not.

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