While the New Mexico Department of Health said it can't pinpoint the baby's exact cause of death, officials believe it could have been linked to the mother's drinking raw milk during pregnancy.

Health officials in New Mexico are warning against consuming raw dairy products after a newborn baby in the state died from a listeria infection that they say was likely contracted when the baby's mother drank raw milk during pregnancy.

The New Mexico Department of Health in a news release said that officials believe the mother consumed unpasteurized milk while pregnant, which could have led to the listeria infection.

Officials cannot pinpoint the exact source of the listeria that led to the baby's death, the release said, but it noted that "the tragic death underscores the serious risks raw dairy poses to pregnant women, young children, elderly New Mexicans and anyone with a weakened immune system."

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[–] 86 points 9 months ago* (28 children)

If only we had a way to remove dangerous bacteria from milk. We could name it after its inventor... /sarcasm.

On the other hand, this is survival of the fittest. If you're willing to take risks with your foetus' health by drinking unpasteurized milk, maybe you shouldn't be a parent...

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    Personally I think we'll continue to have problems if misinformation is never found culpable of the deaths that they cause. There's no way this person decided to drink unpasteurized milk alone. Who was her community and why aren't they being held accountable? I have the same concerns with the head of the HHS, and previous cases of stochastic terrorism. Our system of justice (or what it once was...) is just illprepared for this.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, the problem is these people bond over being ignorant pieces of shit.

    It gets to the point where everyone is supposed to know the "meta" information and anyone who tries to be serious about something is ridiculed.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    Google find me a website about why pasteurization is bad.

    ChatGPT explain why raw milk is good and pasteurized milk is bad.

    Imo these people are often being served what they want. The easiest things to do may be a series of truth in advertising related laws:

    A) make chatbot companies liable for anything a chatbot tells a user (regardless of disclaimers),

    B) a law that encodes similar levels of editorial process for large websites and social media power users as wikipedia: citations needed for any claim. (Note such a law would probably kill the right wing media overnight, if enforced)

    C) affiliation disclosure requirements. For both social media users and websites. Farmers selling raw milk shouldn't also be hosting misinfo sites on pasteurization.

    And finally: D) media algorithm transparency

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I'm all for going after people who purposely spread misinformation. But I don't think this is solely on them. It's to easy to just blame them and absolve the individual of any responsibility of critical thought. It's not like information about pasteurized milk and the benefits isn't readily available. But they choose to ignore it, so that's on them too.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    The funny part is that some people in the raw milk community have started heating the milk before consumption to reduce the risk of illness. They swear its not pasteurization though, that's something different and bad.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They swear its not pasteurization though, that’s something different and bad.

    That French, Yurrupeen socialism.

    Dying by the shits is the way God intended.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It's nice that heating milk kills bacteria and viruses; but doing it too much can damage taste and nutrition. That's why I've been experimenting with ways to minimize the temperature and time needed to sanitize milk without otherwise damaging it. The deep state will never get me to drink pasturized milk!

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Some people are so unbelievably stupid it's sad. On the other hand, there's very little difference in taste/texture versus non-pasteurized milk, some people think they prefer the taste of raw milk when what they're really enjoying is non-homogenized milk, which is still pasteurized.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This isn’t survival of the fittest. Not one baby in human history was responsible for their own fitness or survival. This is survival of the poorly educated, poorly resourced, poorly connected communities. They’re trying to make ends meet with a baby, and unfortunately they couldn’t do that in a safe manner. It’s a tragedy, a hallmark of human life.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    The baby hadn't been born yet. The would-be mother drank unpasteurized "raw" milk.

    That's not a case of being poor or poorly resourced. It's a lot harder to source unpasteurized milk than it is to find milk that is safe to drink. You have to really go out of your way to buy that!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is survival of the poorly educated, poorly resourced, poorly connected communities.

    Or this is the "find out" moment for a MAGA housewife who spent the last year cheering on RFK Junior and yellilng about the "woke agenda" of pasteurization.

    The point is, we don't know. But since RAW milk is both more expensive AND more inconvenient to obtain, I'm going to go with my theory over a poor mother.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Sorry, I didn’t read the “New” in the title; shame on me. Nonetheless, unless this was murder, they were poorly educated and working with propagandized information. I don’t pity them for picking the side they did. I do pity them for the circumstances that led to them believing it was the right choice when they had.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Actually it's not a failure of the poorest of societies. Most the people that are these raw milk drinkers are usually people that are middle class to well off. The poorer end of the spectrum normally just purchase whatever regular milk is in the store cuz that's usually what WIC or mom and baby or whatever else is paying for.

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