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There won't even be an election to run in at this rate (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/mop
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[–] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

You understand that people can vote against Trump and also think that it's a good idea to actually run decent candidates to oppose him, right?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    The person you replied to absolutely understands that. What ends up happening is dumb leftist not voting for anyone because their candidate isn't perfect to their definition.

    I say dumb, because I would describe myself as a leftist progressive, but I actually vote.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Sure, but is that a thing that actually happened or it is just a rhetorical device that people trot out to shut down any discussion of moving the Democratic party in the "wrong" direction?

    Like we SHOULD be able to talk about why the DNC ran a really unappealing candidate and why their positions were unpopular without that discussion being. "So I GuESS yoU LoVe TRumP huh?"

    A party that cannot analyze or even ADMIT to their own failure isn't one that is trying to win.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Everyone who voted for the Green Party were well aware that the intention was a Trump win and a Harris loss. Their people literally said as much.

    Was it enough to cause a Harris loss? I don't know. I don't have enough information to know how many voters were discouraged. There were absolutely a ton of people on Lemmy talking about how the only "good" vote was a vote against Harris though.

    So it is a problem. Just the matter of degree is unknown.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    So your conclusion is that people not voting for Harris has absolutely nothing to do with Harris actual position on the issues or her suitability as a candidate? The tiny fraction of people that voted for someone else while somehow not wanting Trump to win is the real problem, not bad democratic candidates? You think that approach is going to accomplish anything apart from continuing to lose elections?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I don't believe I said any such thing, so I would appreciate you not implying that I did.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Oh sorry, I assumed you were making a substantive reply that merited a response. Feel free to fuck off then.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I replied to a specific comment with a specific reply about a specific issue, as the only comment by me in this chain.

    You have chosen to apply some unrelated commentary to my response, tried to put words in my mouth, and then behaved like a jackass in your reply to me.

    If thats the kind of person you are, then I'll happily add you to my block list and move on with my day.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What I find fascinating about people like you is that you take the position that extremist inflexible positions on Gaza are why Harris lost the election, but when pressed it always turns out that you view the extremist position as being OPPOSED to genocide.

    If you want to blame an insane position on Gaza for Harris losing the election, why don't you blame the Democratic candidate who decided to firmly take a position on Gaza that mirrored fucking Donald Trump?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What I find fascinating is my comment included nothing of the sort.

    So my previous statement is confirmed, thats exactly the type of person you are.

    Goodbye.

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