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[–] 82 points 9 months ago (32 children)

4k is enough, 60fps is enough, no smart or AI stuff is perfectly fine...

What about reducing the energy consumption? That's an innovation I want.

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  • [–] 64 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    I hope you mean 60hz is enough for TVs. Because I certainly don't want that regression on my monitor 😄

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Totally agree. Huge difference when moving windows or gaming on a 120 Hz or higher monitor. So smooth.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You have never noticed the difference between 60 and 120hz?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    When I tried a game that had a 120hz mode, I had to lower the quality a little to get it work well, but didn't notice a big difference, but there was a difference.

    A few days later I went back to 60hz so i could increase the graphics quality , and the difference was crazy huge. I had to go back to 120hz.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly you will. You probably never compared the two side by side.

    It's incredibly apparent, you think it's smooth but then when you go over to 120 Hz and then go back the difference is very apparent.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I had a 980ti for AGES that could do 120hz at 1080. got a big 4k screen, immediately had to upgrade the gpu because it wouldn't do 4k at anything higher than 60hz. even moving the mouse across the screen felt sluggish.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    So important that my windows move smoothly, right?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Just like my entire system. Smooth.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago* (14 children)

    Are you aware that reducing the energy consumption on monitors is competely irrelevant compared to the giant data centers coming up now, taking as much as power as a full city?

    One typical AI data center ≈ 1 TWh/year ≈ the electricity used by 100 000 average homes annually.

    A very large AI data center under construction ≈ 20 TWh/year ≈ electricity for ~2 million homes annually.

    Fun times isnt it.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I personally do reject that kind of thinking.

    "But others are worse" reminds me of the kindergarten..

    EU has introduced energy efficiency levels for monitors based on the potential and we are far from the goal.

    I can't tear down AI data centers, but I can choose to buy a monitor that does not heat up my living room and leads to a nicer electricity bill for me.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    You can care about more than one thing

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, sort of like if your kitchen is on fire but you also need to vacuum the living room. You should definitely focus on finishing the vacuuming before addressing the fire, because, you know, you can care about more than one thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Try to keep up with me here: what if you could put out the fire and vacuum at the same time?

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago

    Of course, buy monitors that use a bit less energy. That will give you probably 1 dollar per year in savings, and you can spend that on something nicer. A cup of coffee maybe.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    By that logic, I should go out and just start a murder spree, because people die anyway so whats the point.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    I'm reminded of this type of absurdity every time my Creative T40 speakers auto-shut off after a few minutes of inactivity, and take 4 seconds to wake up again. Yes, that entire millijoule of (entirely renewable) electrical energy is making a huge difference.

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