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[+] -27 points 9 months ago (22 children)

It actually isn't. When you closing 3rd option/inaction predictably leads to the empowerment of the greatest evil, you have actually chosen the greatest evil.

A legitimate attempt to minimize harm from your given choices isn't choosing evil at all.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    As a long term strategy, or individual choice, this kind of logic leads to bad outcomes regardless as the lesser evil doesn't move a finger to improve things, which means the greater evil will win eventually regardless.

    Furthermore, both parties are utterly despicable with their foreign policy, constantly participating in coups, invasions, economic warfare, bombing, and more, all while pretending to be doing it for a GOOD reason.

    I believe the obvious solution is to get organized collectively and make democratic choices on short term actions (such as supporting the lesser evil) while simultaneously doing real stuff to combat against both, through learning and educating, protecting civilians, practicing mutual aid, fighting landlords and corporations with unions, etc. As it stands, intellectuals platformed by the same elites constantly argue about voting the lesser evil and little else, as threatening the system would go against the interests of those who own the media platforming them. So I'm not saying don't vote blue in a swing state or whatever else, all I'm saying is that our political involvement can't start and end there, because people are dying.

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  • [+] -18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yup primaries are where you can shape your party and hopefully arent choosing between a Nazi and a different flavored genocide. Do what you can with what you can.

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  • [+] 15 points 9 months ago* (3 children)
  • [+] -13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Okay. It sure felt like the republican working class leveraged their vote effectively.

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  • [+] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [+] -12 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And yet, that is a huge part of their voting base. There just aren't enough rich people to be a functional voting block. They may have been tricked but they are voting GOP. That's reality. Denying it loses elections.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is exactly what the OP is about

    I don't feel democrats are going to do anything for me. Yet I still feel heavy pressure to vote for then

    The Democrat party is so incompetent. The election losses are their fault. Stop shaming people for not voting for a platform they hate, and shame the party for a terrible platform of inaction

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    You have enabled genocide, the ultimate evil, and you act surprised that you've opened Pandora's Box and now the Box is open.

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  • [+] -23 points 9 months ago (13 children)
  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Think whatever you want, an Israeli-trained federal death squad will be along to correct you shortly

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  • [+] -18 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    For real. Who should I have voted for to stop this nightmare?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    -PSL

    -Organize with your neighborhood and city to form mutual aid networks capable of resisting coercion (like we were always going to be forced to do anyway)

    -Failing that, make literally any demands of the blue fascist party whose endless imperial dipshittery you slavishly indulged at every turn. Use any fucking leverage at all instead of showing your belly preemptively.

    -Failing all else, simply do not set the precedent that a candidate can run on the wholesale fascist extermination of an entire people and still receive your support. Simply do not throw 2 million human beings into the jaws of death as a matter of cowardice and taint yourself forever as a collaborator of Holocaust 2. Its actually super easy not to do that.

    That ship has sailed now, and nobody is going to want you in their antifascist organization now that you've loudly declared your willingness to sell out the vulnerable. I think at this point you should probably just like, crawl under a rock and never come out.

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  • [+] -19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Uh yeah im not concerned with being a part of an imaginary group. The Lemmy desire to make believe that someone saying they dont vote for the violent dictator and are wanting to vote to make their party align with their values is the same as someone supporting genocide is stupid.

    This is why its such an ineffective argument. It makes you sound completely out of touch with reality. It reminds me of the various factions at the beginning of "The Life of Brian."

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Imaginary group

    Damn someone better tell all those states they put an imaginary group on the ballot. I ain't even reading the rest of your bad faith bullshit, the fact that you don't care to do anything but support genocide and "didn't feel like organizing", and even now go to absurd lengths to defend your disgusting lazy slug fascism, has earned you a seat in hell and a place in a summary court before that. I can also tell you're exactly the kind of coward who will, when the tables are turned, pretend to have been on the side of humanity all along. Luckily you're as shit a liar as you are a person, and I doubt you'll escape justice.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Why would participating in the electoral theater change anything except increase the mass media's view counts?

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