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RAM Prices Got You Down? Try DDR3. Seriously! (hackaday.com)
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[–] 23 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I'm already considering building a maxed out AMD based machine, with DDR3.

The last machine I had with that technology lasted me 12 years. I can vouch for it.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I trust DDR3 to last decades.

    DDR5? I've had three different sticks, from different brands, on different boards, die on me because of this stupid idea of adding the power delivery circuit in the RAM stick itself. So RAM manufacturers cheap out or don't pay enough attention and your stick die, meanwhile, motherboard manufacturers have been dealing with multiple sensitive voltage rails for decades and have more than enough experience keeping them working.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I moved to a DDR4/AM4 platform when I assembled my current machine because the AM3 platform was being labelled as end of cycle and the FM segment seemed too niche.

    The scales tiped when I discovered many AM4 CPUs carried on chip graphic processing capabilities and being in need of a graphics card it was more affordable for me to just buy an APU than buy a CPU and add a GPU on top.

    Not being a gamer and a Linux user, throwing money on a graphics card, that by then were heavily price inflated, made little sense, so I opted by the AM4 platform.

    Currently, I'm considering building a machine capable of running Wasteland 2, because that game has been under my eye for years.

    I'm finding graphic cards with 4GB of memory on the market with very interesting prices. Used CPUs are cheap, unless I aim for the top tier models, with 6 or more cores. I still have the memory chips from the machine I retired (8GB) and getting an additional 8 is nothing out of reach. I just need to find a motherboard that can take 16GB or more of memory.

    If I can assemble a machine capable of running that game, I'm fairly confident the system itself will be more than enough to comply with my daily computing needs and then some.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    a machine capable of running Wasteland 2

    Is there even such a machine on God's good earth? It's definitely a good game, but absolutely blighted by instability & CTDs last time I tried it a few years ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Don't know. But thank you for the warning.

    GOG sent an email the other day warning the game was on discount and after taking another look at hardware the requirements it felt like a good benchmark for the technology of the time.

    It was heavy back then.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    It ran fine for me on a Ryzen 4700u mobile APU without issue, no stability issues that I noticed and reasonable performance. The hardware requirements recommend a GTX 460, so pretty much anything reasonably competent from the last decade should run it well, no?

    It's an excellent game, one of the best of it's kind and a real treat to play, enjoy.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    How very strange. I manage a deployment of hundreds of ddr5 based systems and have had no issues with failing ram. Not a single one.

    I have seen multiple consumer am5 motherboards with poor bios that fail to recognize ram and we've definitely seen stories of atypical processor failure rates in a handful of am5 boards by a couple of manufacturers. All of these things point to declining investment in motherboard design and testing by a couple of consumer motherboard brands rather than issues with modern silicon.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    The dead power management issue was more prevalent on the first generation of DDR5 sticks leaving the factories, sometimes with certain motherboard vendors (like Gigabyte) making the issue worse by using very aggressive "auto tuning" during memory training that never was quite within spec.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Really? I've been managing a fleet of PCs at work with DDR5 for a few years now and haven't noticed any memory issues.

    A couple motherboard and PSU replacements, but no memory failures.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I had an 8350 machine with 32gb of ram when if was in season and while it never really left me short of power, the intel 4770k and 4790k were better performers. That may not be the case anymore with stuff being more multi-core optimized but at the time, the intel single core performance was so much better than the 8350s which made a bid difference in gaming.

    My old rig was an 8350 overclocked to 4.5 on liquid, crossfired 3gb 7950hd's, and 32gb of matched corsair dominator ddr3 all in a corsair 230t chassis with the bright orange paint and led fans.

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