A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I'd agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 104 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

Federal prosecutors are having a real tough time getting juries to convict, and sometimes even indict, citizens accused of assaulting ICE and CBP agents. They have 30 cases against Chicago residents, and so far they're 0 for 15. They couldn't get a felony indictment for the sandwich-throwing guy in DC, so they went for a misdemeanor; he was aquitted despite clearly having done it. It is not at all clear to me that the feds could get a conviction for killing someone during what is, legally, a home invasion.

(This is not an incitement of violence towards any federal agents, nor am I advocating for anyone to break any state or federal laws. To any FBI agents reading this, I think you're very smart and handsome.)

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I’m willing to bet large this DOJ has lost more cases than any other administration previously. It’s hilarious.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    They had this grand plan to weaponize the DOJ, but no one stopped to ask, "wait, what if everyone on the jury fucking hates us?"

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    This is exactly why juries exist. Jury nullification isn't a loophole or a trick. It's a built-in defense against unjust laws and corrupted executive and judicial officials.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think any of the cases have been jury nullification, they keep bringing unreasonable charges and the jury doesn't buy it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not disagreeing with you, but a misdemeanour for throwing a sandwich at someone is a joke.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    True, but then again, there was that tow truck driver in LA who towed that ICE car, with flashing police lights, in the middle of a stop. I can't imagine someone getting away with that if it had been a normal LAPD stop.

  • source
  • parent