Toyota, Progressive Insurance, and a data analytics firm are now being accused of collecting detailed personal driving information without proper consent

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[–] 56 points 9 months ago (11 children)

They ask for consent in the terms and conditions, you know, that long annoying text that no one really reads when signing up for stuff.

That is where they put the consent.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The thing about 23&Me is that they’re collecting data not just on the people who signed up for the service - the ones who actually skipped and accepted the T&Cs - but their family members as well.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's not real consent if you're forced to agree to use the product or if the terms allow the company to alter the terms.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    And it's so ubiquitous that the only way to avoid them altogether is to become Amish.

    Good luck never agreeing to binding arbitration. And even if you do get out of it, good luck ever holding them accountable in a class action. You might be able to file a class action, but no one can join you.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Further, like, as a third party I can't really consent. Say I'm out on a walk and I pass a Tesla, or that Tesla drives by me. It has a bunch of cameras, it's recording a bunch of shit. I as a passerby have no ability to consent or decline being recorded just going about my business.

    I fucking hate that. Every time I see a modern car I'm grossed out because I feel like I'm being watched.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Is it consent if it is forced?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No one is forcing you to use their services

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Seen the third party message on the Wirecutter comments section?

    “If you comment on these socks we’re recommending YOUR DATA WILL BE SOLD!!!”

    Incredible and actually good guy vendor (Disqus) in a way for not hiding it unless it was their lawyers’ doing :)

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