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Steam updates AI disclosure form to specify that it's focused on AI-generated content that is 'consumed by players,' not efficiency tools used behind the scenes (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] 6 points 9 months ago* (13 children)

Anything that I find that's digital and uses AI, I do opt out of, thank you.

I called an HVAC company several weeks ago and they had an AI agent answer the phone. I hung up and called someone else. No problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    You better stop using lemmy or your lemmy client then.

    Odds are astronomically high that they've used AI at some point on its development.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    I don't use Lemmy, I use PieFed, and it never used any AI. Thanks for playing though.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    You really don’t understand.

    They’ve used AI too.

    Developers are technology forward people. They try new things out. Maybe there’s some unit tests in it, or maybe they asked ChatGPT some questions to see how it responded when they had a problem vs a regular google search. Maybe they did a google search and the answer was in the AI response at the top.

    Their IDE probably includes AI tooling that automatically functions like code completion / suggestions.

    You’re just deluding yourself if you think you can be using new software that involved zero AI, and that delusion becomes larger and larger for every person involved in it.

    They might not be actively using it, but they have used it, and it has touched the software you use.

    Edit: Also while were at it, ditch your browser you use the internet in, and your phone.

    Edit2: You can continue below if you'd like but I'll short circuit things here.

    Here there’s talk on their repository about using an AI detection service (which is AI) to try and flag AI.

    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/605

    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/530 and image hashing with a link to his chatgpt chat.

    So ya, AI was used in the development process (planning / discussing / testing) is part of the process.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    They’ve used AI too.

    Where?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    I literally just gave you all sorts of examples of how or where.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    You literally gave me nothing but speculation.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Hence the you're just delusional because you really don't understand what's going on.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You're the delusional one if you think everyone and everything was coded with AI. That's just incredibly ignorant.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not saying it was entirely coded with AI, but AI has had some involvement.

    You clearly stated you think any use should be disclosed, as per the old steam policy, and that you wouldn't use anything if it was disclosed as used.

    In some shape or form, it has been involved with PieFed, and it would require a disclosure if they were being honest about it.

    There are over 40 contributors on codeberg repository. That's 40 people that you have to belive have never asked ChatGPT a question about the work they were doing on it, that didn't base a descision off the Google search result AI response at the top, that didn't use any of the IDE code completion tools built right into the software they use to write the software.

    It's just not happening.

    If you think you can use software like this that isn't tainted by it, you're just flat out wrong at this point and moving forward in the world.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    AI has had some involvement

    it has been involved with PieFed

    You keep suggesting this but you can't provide any evidence whatsoever. And until you do I'll continue to reject your nonsense.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Here there's talk on their repository about using an AI detection service (which is AI) to try and flag AI.

    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/605

    I tried a 3B version of the same model and it couldn't detect that the sample text that came with the repo was AI. So we'd need a GPU capable of loading an 7B model which means at least 8 GB of RAM. afaik the demo script does two detections as examples of what's possible but either one will do the job.

    They were talking about a service they thought maybe they could even have run on your machine.

    Doesn't matter if they used it or not in the end, AI was used in the development process.

    Tell yourself whatever you need to so you can sleep at night, but of the 40+ people contributing to the project and they're openly talking about AI on their repository, well I can't help you...

    I'm expecting no reply to this message as it would constitute you using a service that involved AI.

    Edit: and pay attention to the names in that thread and who owns the repository.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't matter if they used it or not in the end

    Uh...that's the only thing that matters.

    AI was used in the development process.

    No it wasn't.

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