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Is Anyone Printing ICE Whistles? (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world
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There is a demand for locally printed whistles for communities where ICE is or forecast to be.

If you are interested in printing whistles for your area, search "ICE whistles [your area]". You can use either your state or major nearby city. If you are interested in printing whistles, but can't find anything, let me know and I can see if I can find a local org you can support.

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[–] 24 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Sadly it's not just a question of expensive anymore, it's also a question of whether they can track your purchases (they can) and whether those purchase records will eventually have ICE banging down your door in the middle of the night to have you disappeared for your seditious act of buying justice-obstructing terrorist whistles.

3d printing is not impossible to track either but it's certainly a lot harder to track when you are using basic internet hygiene and money isn't changing hands.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Counterpoint: Flock cameras also exist. Surveillance police state dystopia is already here and it's spreading much faster than I think most people are prepared for, we have to take it seriously.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    I don't care if they track my purchase of whistles. There is nothing wrong or illegal.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    That's the problem with authoritarianism: it no longer matters what is legal or not (the repressive state does as it pleases), and even if it did matter what's legal, too bad that's not up to you to decide anymore.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Still couldn't give a shit

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    Precisely, and you giving one or not doesn't change the outcome when they come pick you up and you have no recourse.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Sure I do. Its just not legal

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    And which state apparatus do you expect to come to the rescue when all powers are practically consolidated, and the one supposed to protect your rights is the same that oppresses you? Or the oppressor changes/makes-up the rules on a whim? You just don't seem to understand what authoritarianism is about, and how the deal is changing. Haven't you been taught history? People generally don't bring up words like "fascism" for fun and giggles...

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Your having a fantasy conversation

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Do I? I'm just giving you textbook facts about authoritarianism and the consequences of living under one.

    Whether you believe that this relates to your situation is something else. I'm not here to play mind games with you, all I can do is encourage you to simply look at the traits and definition of it, and bring your bingo card with you. Here it is, unaltered from Wikipedia:

    Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in democracy, separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law.[1][2] Authoritarian regimes may be either autocratic or oligarchic and may be based upon the rule of a party, the military, or the concentration of power in a single person.[3][4]

    Also, I gain nothing from this "fantasy conversation" besides the hope that it might help the reader navigate through what's happening (and that they will avoid the worst of it).

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, we live in a time when 3d printed guns exist, I'm pretty sure having a 3d printer and ordering filament is probably about as likely to get you on a list as ordering some whistles

    But whistles are readily available and cheap, without looking too hard I can get a dozen from them at target for less than $5 with lanyards. Leave your phone at home, pay cash, take a bus or park in the next shopping center over or wear a mask like you're getting over a cold and a baseball cap and you're about as anonymous as you can get.

    Can probably get them even cheaper if you shop around a bit, if you have a party store around you I'll bet you can get a bunch there for cheap as party favors for a children's birthday party goody bag or whatever.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    At the end of the day everyone's got to do their own risk analysis, but ICE is also pretty reactionary and stupid in their gestapo tactics, and people aren't regularly shooting ICE with 3d printed guns at this point. The whistles probably (hopefully) irritate them though, and they tend to aggressively lash out at things that irritate them.

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