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Developer appreciation time! (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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Meme in three parts: 1: "I'm new to Linux, How am I doing this: …?" 2: Guy (Enthusiasts offering help) turning around looking at a good-looking woman (Cryptic CLI commands) while his apparent girlfriend (Accessible, user-friendly GUI tools) is looking at him like she's going to explode in a second 3: Very sad cat in front of a laptop looking at the camera (Devs of underappreciated GUI tools)
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[–] 41 points 10 months ago (11 children)

So you want newbies blindly entering scripts to there command line and not knowing what that are doing.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They're blindly doing it either way. I understand and want GUIs as well, but dumping commands into terminal is starting to seem easier than "go here click this, now click that"

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Open "app" -> open menu -> select option -> change this /Β  push this button.

    Just as easy to write as a command. But many people (me included) is so used to go the CLI route that the GUI way is only an afterthought.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    If it's "oh, you can open up [application X] and it's easy to figure it out, and there's videos out there to cover your use case", then ok.

    But if it's to help a user with a very specific task and they want their hand held, well from a GUI perspective I'm either making a bunch of screenshots or maybe even a tutorial video or a screen share session.... Or I shoot them a relatively short CLI command that does it and move on to other things.

    It is usually much shorter to tell someone the CLI to do something than it is to try to train them on a GUI for the same thing. If it's well-trodden subject matter, well they probably already found a youtube tutorial and didn't even have to ask.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Teach them to double check against the man page before pasting, would be my guess.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    But then the CLI wouldn't be faster anymore and the whole argument most people keep bringing up falls apart.

    Also those man pages aren't even remotely written to be understandable by Linux novices most of the time…

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    But then the CLI wouldn't be faster anymore and the whole argument most people keep bringing up falls apart.

    It is much faster for the one giving the answer. Also, the looking up the man page is something you only do the first time. With the gui the user should also verify before blindly following instructions, but it is usually harder to find proper documentation of gui features than cli commands.

    Also those man pages aren't even remotely written to be understandable by Linux novices most of the time…

    That is a fair point. They are dense, technical and at times pretty hard to read. But when a novice asks for help they are always going to either trust blindly or verify. Verifying can be a difficult task for a novice no matter if gui or cli is suggested. I do think most novices would trust the gui way more and feel more in control of it, even if they are basically doing the same thing.

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