there is no current word on their condition as the situation is evolving, but i am expecting both to be dead and hope to be wrong. either way, ICE nazis are committed to upholding fascism at the expense of human lives. we are more unsafe now than we’ve been before in this administration. ICE does not view any of us as exceptions. we will be slaughtered if Der Führer demands it.

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[–] 86 points 10 months ago (28 children)

Well that didn't take long, how long before this is found to be lies top to bottom?

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  • [–] 142 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    'Weaponized their vehicle' seems to be ICE's favorite excuse per some stat I saw earlier in the day...

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago

    Doesn't matter what you do, they'll claim you were a threat...

    The only exception is carrying a big fuck off rifle yourself, because then you're actually a threat.

    I've never seen a video or heard of an event where American law enforcement murdered a civilian while sympathetic protesters carrying rifles were within line of sight.

    We all know they're cowards. We'd be stupid not to do the one thing that prevents overreach.

    Bunch of tootsie pops running around talking about an owl infestation, you only get licked a couple times till you get cracked

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    "fearing for his life", unfortunately they're all about to understand what that really means if things get more out of hand across the country

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I feel like they inherently lose any legitimacy when using emotive language like "vicious" in official statements from a public body

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Its not a lie, there's a formal point system to determine whether someone is associated with Tren de Aragua. 8 points means they're definitely a part of the gang.

    It's 3 points for being in the US without documentation, 6 points for associating with any known members and 2 points for any social media posts containing "associated references".

    Practically every Venezuelan is part of the gang according to the DoJ. So it's not a lie, just guilt by association.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    It is a lie, it's just a lie built on a system designed to lie. No rational person who is genuinely seeking to understand whether or not someone is a member of that gang would read that list and agree with it.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    When are they going to arrest the kiddie rapist and human trafficker in the White House?

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  • [–] [S] 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    this is contributing to the false narrative that ICE is legitimate. they aren’t. they should have never been established and must be abolished. not only that but their current iteration is acting on illegal orders by a fascist dictator president. even if what they’re saying is true it doesn’t justify their actions because they shouldn’t fucking be there in the first place.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago*

    It's an entire agency that is 90% staffed with tactical units enforcing MISDEMEANOR civil infractions that the supreme court gave unlimited authority because their scope of work was narrow to the limit where normal people shouldn't ever encounter them.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    they should have never been established and must be abolished.

    It's wild how many people legitimately don't know it didn't exist 25 years ago...

    Like, obviously we don't need it, it's practically brand new for a federal agency. The only reason it's as big as it is, is we e been rotating between neoliberals and republicans for 30 years, while both groups moved right.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't it just great that we're in such a place and time where an official message from the federal government has me saying yeah I don't believe a word of that

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    And the officials in Portland tell you the same:

    https://www.opb.org/article/2026/01/08/portland-shooting-federal-agents/

    “We know what the federal government says happened here,” (Portland mayor) Wilson said at the earlier press conference. “There was a time when we could take them on their word. That time has long passed. We are calling on ICE to halt all operations in Portland until a full investigation can take place.”

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    could be true, could be false. ICE has lost all credibility and blatantly makes shit up. Is this a time when they are being honest or is this more made up shit? who knows, but probably more bullshit

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Our mayor nailed it in his statement:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-shot-federal-agents-portland-sources/story?id=129038573

    "Portland Mayor Keith Wilson told reporters, "We know what the federal government says happened here. There was a time when we could take them at their word. That time is long past.""

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