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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago* (7 children)

    Look up the black panthers bud. Nothing wrong with armed protesters.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think they've ever done a single thing except get people killed.

    They're responsible for some of the strongest gun control legislation currently enabled in America today. What the fuck do you mean you "don't think they've ever done a single thing"?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    You are incredibly ignorant to the community organizing and mutual aid programs that the black panthers created and helped facilitate to provide needed aid to so many neglected, black neighborhoods.

    The black panthers created countless programs to provide community-run schools and clinics, food/clothing, legal aid, senior transportation, ambulance services, legal aid and counseling, as well as things like home maintenance and repair services through freely accessible mutual aid initiatives.

    And, yes, they also provided community defense against state oppression from racist police forces targeting black communities. Which is something that today's communities could learn a fucking thing or two from with our current situation.

    Web link to a book by the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation "Black Panthers: Service to the Peoples Programs

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure the Black Panthers embezzled more than they spent on charity, thats why they had to murder their secretary in 1974.

    Self segregationists did more to harm the welfare of black communities than help them.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, because the party began to schism in its later years, obviously all of the good they did during their decades of activism obviously means nothing.

    Also, I didn't say anything about how they spent their funds, I was speaking about how they verifiably organized communities to exchange their resources and skills freely between each other, not simply fucking "charity". Learn the difference. I don't give a single fuck what they did with the money. Money is the least of my concerns.

    And lastly, the black panthers were anything but segregationists. They happily worked alongside their white comrades as well as Latino groups and LGBT organizations, plus had a sizable portion of women in their ranks during a time of rampant sexism. The only thing they wanted to be separate from was the oppressive American government and the proponents of its racist as fuck culture.

    Were they a perfect organization? No, but no organization is. They existed during a time when they were under constant threat by state and federal forces trying their damnedest to dismantle them. Some within the organization took things in the wrong direction in response to these existential threats, yes, but that says nothing about the good their organization did as a whole.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    Black Panthers were segregationists, any claim otherwise is historical revision. When Stokely Carmichael of the Black Panther Party became president of the SNCC he expelled all the white members leading to a sharp decline in donations. BPP has been Segregationist from even before its official formation.

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  • [–] 60 points 10 months ago (47 children)

    You might want to invest in a dictionary in case you decide to open your mouth and shit out something this stupid in the future.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Yeah, your being ridiculously pedantic. The concept of protest dies not actually exclude violence.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Again, the concept of protest is not limited to legitimate dialogue.

    I can go all day!

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    that's just your opinion

    also let's just be clear here, it is not "violence" (in the sense that you seem to be using it) to protect yourself against violence instigated by others

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (20 children)

    Do you need me to point out that nowhere does it say "if you are armed its not a protest" or can we all just agree that your previous statement was full of shit and that you will remember this definition in the future?

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Self-defense is not a threat, and fuck you for trying to pretend otherwise.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

    Lmao we should just keep letting them blast us in the face and not defend ourselves, yeah?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Armed protesters don't get shot.

    No ss tool will dare die for a paycheck, they currently have the monopoly of force and will continue to use it until that force is challenged. You know why every oppressive regime disarms the populous? It's not because they're trying to protect them.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Yes a car that was no where near them, and they know it. They wouldn't have tried that if everyone there was walking around with rifles telling them to fuck off. You know why they're not going into gang territory?....

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    They had surrounded the car when it started moving, the video is on the front page of most instances right now including this exact community.

    Good luck arming "everyone" with rifles at your next protest.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    We live in the USA.... I can literally buy an AR in most states in less than 15mins.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-richmond-virginia-charlottesville-us-news-2c997c92fa7acd394f7cbb89882d9b5b

    20k+ was the estimate....all of them armed to the teeth. Police didn't do shit. You know why? Because the police are not willing to die for a paycheck, but they're willing to kill for one.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    If you think the thousands of people at that Rally are all going to be on your side, you're a fucking idiot. A lot of those people are probably in the PD and the ICE.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    That wasn't the point. This entire thread has been about getting the left armed.

    You're like the prime candidate for this fascist regime. Not willing to actually fight back. Thinks they're not going to hurt you if you keep your head down and be peaceful. You're very naive.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I"m fighting back in ways that will actually matter, unlike you.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    We need to clarify because Fox News is constantly trying to classify all protests as Riots. Sometimes, protests do change into something else, they stop being peaceful, but the vast majority are not that.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I mean, being armed doesn't necessarily need to mean you are showing up to be violent. If you bring a firearm to a peaceful protest, with right to carry, and you partake in the peaceful protest, peacefully so, then ICE starts illegally opening fire at you, you should be able to defend yourself.

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    I think being armed with a non-concealed firearm is explicitly a threat. I think it's a tactic used egregiously by our enemies and I don't think it's particularly effective. I don't think the ICE is worried that killing you in cold blood is illegal, they generally don't follow the laws in the first place.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I would assume you would bring a concealed weapon to a peaceful protest for the purpose of self-defense. 😄

    Bring a rifle and slinging it on your back would definitely be a provocation/instigation lol

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The other user(s) in this comment section is saying they want everyone to bring rifles. For all I know it's all just Deceptichum's alt accounts, maybe a couple Russian trolls, but I'm arguing with those people about a completely different subject than what you're talking about.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    The fact you have to put the word "peaceful" in front of "protest" to differentiate it from other types of protest already invalidates your attestment that the word "protest" implies peaceful means.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    You kmow why there are many, many claims that protest can be violent?

    Becsuse it can be. 🤦‍♂️

    I guess those Buddhists that set themselves on fire in protest is peaceful because they didn't set others on fire? Despite suicide also being a violent act?

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