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[+] -71 points 10 months ago (46 children)

a strong complaint expressing disagreement, disapproval, or opposition:

  • make a protest - Protests have been made by many people who would be affected by the proposed changes.

  • protest about - A formal protest was made by the German team about their disqualification from the relay final.

  • protest against - Conservation groups have united in protest against the planned new road.

  • in protest - Several members walked out of the meeting in protest.

See Also: peaceful protest


Instigating an armed conflict is a protest as much as surgery is a dialogue. That said, I think some armed resistance to the ICE would be warranted, but let's not pretend words can mean whatever you want them to.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Yeah, your being ridiculously pedantic. The concept of protest dies not actually exclude violence.

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  • [+] -62 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    I am always extremely pedantic.

    Violence is not a complaint or in any way a form of legitimate dialogue.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Again, the concept of protest is not limited to legitimate dialogue.

    I can go all day!

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    that's just your opinion

    also let's just be clear here, it is not "violence" (in the sense that you seem to be using it) to protect yourself against violence instigated by others

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    If ICE force their way onto your property, that's their violence.

    If you force your way onto federal property, that's your violence.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    How did the French revolution go, again? One big ole peaceful protest, right?

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago*

    The French started by uniting the people and bankrupting the state, so I reccomend you start there as well, because if you go into a war with a minority of the public to support you then you're going to wind up less like the French and more like the Spaniards.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (20 children)

    Do you need me to point out that nowhere does it say "if you are armed its not a protest" or can we all just agree that your previous statement was full of shit and that you will remember this definition in the future?

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Self-defense is not a threat, and fuck you for trying to pretend otherwise.

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  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

    Lmao we should just keep letting them blast us in the face and not defend ourselves, yeah?

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    We should gain majority support to punish these criminals. Starting a war in the street will not accomplish that.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Armed protesters don't get shot.

    No ss tool will dare die for a paycheck, they currently have the monopoly of force and will continue to use it until that force is challenged. You know why every oppressive regime disarms the populous? It's not because they're trying to protect them.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    They literally shot a lady to death yesterday because her car made them nervous.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Yes a car that was no where near them, and they know it. They wouldn't have tried that if everyone there was walking around with rifles telling them to fuck off. You know why they're not going into gang territory?....

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    They had surrounded the car when it started moving, the video is on the front page of most instances right now including this exact community.

    Good luck arming "everyone" with rifles at your next protest.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    We live in the USA.... I can literally buy an AR in most states in less than 15mins.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-richmond-virginia-charlottesville-us-news-2c997c92fa7acd394f7cbb89882d9b5b

    20k+ was the estimate....all of them armed to the teeth. Police didn't do shit. You know why? Because the police are not willing to die for a paycheck, but they're willing to kill for one.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    If you think the thousands of people at that Rally are all going to be on your side, you're a fucking idiot. A lot of those people are probably in the PD and the ICE.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    That wasn't the point. This entire thread has been about getting the left armed.

    You're like the prime candidate for this fascist regime. Not willing to actually fight back. Thinks they're not going to hurt you if you keep your head down and be peaceful. You're very naive.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I"m fighting back in ways that will actually matter, unlike you.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    We need to clarify because Fox News is constantly trying to classify all protests as Riots. Sometimes, protests do change into something else, they stop being peaceful, but the vast majority are not that.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I mean, being armed doesn't necessarily need to mean you are showing up to be violent. If you bring a firearm to a peaceful protest, with right to carry, and you partake in the peaceful protest, peacefully so, then ICE starts illegally opening fire at you, you should be able to defend yourself.

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    I think being armed with a non-concealed firearm is explicitly a threat. I think it's a tactic used egregiously by our enemies and I don't think it's particularly effective. I don't think the ICE is worried that killing you in cold blood is illegal, they generally don't follow the laws in the first place.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I would assume you would bring a concealed weapon to a peaceful protest for the purpose of self-defense. 😄

    Bring a rifle and slinging it on your back would definitely be a provocation/instigation lol

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The other user(s) in this comment section is saying they want everyone to bring rifles. For all I know it's all just Deceptichum's alt accounts, maybe a couple Russian trolls, but I'm arguing with those people about a completely different subject than what you're talking about.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    The fact you have to put the word "peaceful" in front of "protest" to differentiate it from other types of protest already invalidates your attestment that the word "protest" implies peaceful means.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    "Peaceful" is necessitated by the many many many false claims that a protest is anything but.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    You kmow why there are many, many claims that protest can be violent?

    Becsuse it can be. 🤦‍♂️

    I guess those Buddhists that set themselves on fire in protest is peaceful because they didn't set others on fire? Despite suicide also being a violent act?

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