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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) You spelled "take" wrong It matters because the party isn't the people, it's infrastructure. It's buildings, it's support staff, it's mailing lists and payment processors It's getting a special (often unfair) place on the ballot in all 50 states. It's 50 (often flawed) primary processes that follow local laws And it's a banner. Not one people like, but it's one banner. A banner that theoretically stands for democracy and the common man The left is not organized. Do we rally behind a fresh, ideologically pure banner? Which one? How long to work out which group is the best? How long until we can build up that infrastructure? Fuck that. Winning is what matters. The people are on our side for now, there's so much anger and energy. How long until they adjust to the new normal and go back to refusing to believe in a better world? We have a chance right now. The next 18 months. In one sweep we can take a tattered banner and get in control - before people get cold feet. While they're still just screaming for someone to stop Trump. We can use the momentum to unfuck our democracy once we take control, but we can't get distracted. There's no room for purity or lofty ideals. We have to take what is offered and exploit every opportunity. We have to use the system against itself. We have to win. Now. Or we all die permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago I don't think you understand. Socialism isn't on the table. We're so incredibly far from that. Let me know when the revolution is coming and I'll be there for it... Until then we very real issues that we can make a bit better. Not good - we're totally fucked - but we can make things less horrible There's a genocide in progress. We're going to go through a depression. We can tea party the Democrats to be more progressive... There's no time to build up something new I can't impress on you enough how many people are going to die permalink fedilink source parent [–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 year ago Don't let perfect be the enemy of good permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) take what is offered That's the true Blue MAGA spirit. We're shit, we do a little genocide and whatever but forget that and vote for us bcs we're not Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago He wasnt advocating you vote for conservative dems after they ratfuck their way to a general election. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) You spelled "take" wrong It matters because the party isn't the people, it's infrastructure. It's buildings, it's support staff, it's mailing lists and payment processors It's getting a special (often unfair) place on the ballot in all 50 states. It's 50 (often flawed) primary processes that follow local laws And it's a banner. Not one people like, but it's one banner. A banner that theoretically stands for democracy and the common man The left is not organized. Do we rally behind a fresh, ideologically pure banner? Which one? How long to work out which group is the best? How long until we can build up that infrastructure? Fuck that. Winning is what matters. The people are on our side for now, there's so much anger and energy. How long until they adjust to the new normal and go back to refusing to believe in a better world? We have a chance right now. The next 18 months. In one sweep we can take a tattered banner and get in control - before people get cold feet. While they're still just screaming for someone to stop Trump. We can use the momentum to unfuck our democracy once we take control, but we can't get distracted. There's no room for purity or lofty ideals. We have to take what is offered and exploit every opportunity. We have to use the system against itself. We have to win. Now. Or we all die permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago I don't think you understand. Socialism isn't on the table. We're so incredibly far from that. Let me know when the revolution is coming and I'll be there for it... Until then we very real issues that we can make a bit better. Not good - we're totally fucked - but we can make things less horrible There's a genocide in progress. We're going to go through a depression. We can tea party the Democrats to be more progressive... There's no time to build up something new I can't impress on you enough how many people are going to die permalink fedilink source parent [–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 year ago Don't let perfect be the enemy of good permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) take what is offered That's the true Blue MAGA spirit. We're shit, we do a little genocide and whatever but forget that and vote for us bcs we're not Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago He wasnt advocating you vote for conservative dems after they ratfuck their way to a general election. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago I don't think you understand. Socialism isn't on the table. We're so incredibly far from that. Let me know when the revolution is coming and I'll be there for it... Until then we very real issues that we can make a bit better. Not good - we're totally fucked - but we can make things less horrible There's a genocide in progress. We're going to go through a depression. We can tea party the Democrats to be more progressive... There's no time to build up something new I can't impress on you enough how many people are going to die permalink fedilink source parent [–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 year ago Don't let perfect be the enemy of good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago I don't think you understand. Socialism isn't on the table. We're so incredibly far from that. Let me know when the revolution is coming and I'll be there for it... Until then we very real issues that we can make a bit better. Not good - we're totally fucked - but we can make things less horrible There's a genocide in progress. We're going to go through a depression. We can tea party the Democrats to be more progressive... There's no time to build up something new I can't impress on you enough how many people are going to die permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 year ago Don't let perfect be the enemy of good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) take what is offered That's the true Blue MAGA spirit. We're shit, we do a little genocide and whatever but forget that and vote for us bcs we're not Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago He wasnt advocating you vote for conservative dems after they ratfuck their way to a general election. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago He wasnt advocating you vote for conservative dems after they ratfuck their way to a general election. permalink fedilink source parent