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the ongoing merger of liberalism and fascism (lemmy.ml)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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the remaining differences are mostly about aesthetics and not about the use of violence to maintain hegemony

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[+] -32 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

You know, I've been keeping my mouth shut because I don't know that much about Venezuela...

But now that Maduro's VP has expressed a willingness to cooperate with Trump, I think everyone who disputed the claims that Maduro and Chavismo were corrupt has some explaining to do.

I feel like the leftists who supported Chavismo and the right-wingers who backed US intervention should all go out for drinks and commiserate over their foolishness for thinking that they could overlook their allies obvious corruption. Am I wrong?

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Crazy to see people smile benignly while US Presidents shake hands with Saudi Kings and Egyptian Dictators, only to discover their love for democracy when a socialist they don't like secures a 7-pt election lead.

    If the J6ers had all been Venezuelan, I wonder if liberals would have stood back and let the US Congress get lynched?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    Hey Cowbee, I see you often here, commenting on the election results. This will be ignored by liberals because they're too far into propaganda, so instead I made a little copypaste explaining why there cannot be free and fair elections in Venezuela. Feel free to use any or all of it:

    Maduro is not an illegitimate leader. The Bolivarian revolution was widely supported among the people of Venezuela and freed millions from poverty, until USA sanctions demolished their economy. The express purpose of USA sanctioning, according to the US government is to, and I quote, "bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government". USA+EU sanctions additionally murder half a million innocents per year according to recent serious sociologic and medical studies.

    By defending regime change under extreme economic sanctioning, you're approving the murders of 38 million people over the past 50 years of economic sanctions, and directly supporting the CIA strategy of "impoverish them until they change their minds".

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Maduro’s VP has expressed a willingness to cooperate with Trump

    What makes you think that? Is your news diet limited to Fox/CNN/NPR/etc?

    FYI here is a translation of her speech, and here is the video of it.

    Her subsequent statement (on Instagram, in English, and which some media is describing as "conciliatory" while selectively quoting from it) can be read here. When you read it in full you can see she is not recanting her earlier statement and is clearly still not distancing herself from Maduro. She is (consistently with him) imploring the US to follow international law and respect Venezuelan sovereignty.

    edit: see also

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yes, you are wrong. You are also parroting Marco Rubio with the false allegations against Delcy Rodríguez. So, not just wrong but wrong, dishonest, arrogant, and gullible.

    Please go back to keeping your mouth shut.

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