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Swiss phone maker Punkt unveils $699 MC03 privacy Android (9to5google.com)
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[–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So just like any other distro, like grapheneOS or Debian, but (semi?) closed source. Everyone can change their tos (do the degree of their bylaws & AOSP).

There seems to be a lot wrong with their approach (not open sauce, specific hardware choice, ofc not open hardware), but you can't compare prices with phones that bundle in Factbook & co. Ask any are they so cheap.

I do think paying for dev vs having it bundled into the initial purchase price is vastly better bcs the incentives are better - less ewaste/planned obsolescence.

Also they might be willing to get audited so you get a yearly report if they truly respect their promise, if they changed their tos, and if they respect gdpr (they have to list all their data brokers).

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I looked up the datasheets, and the 'sustainability' argument doesn't hold water mathematically. I'll use the Fairphone 5 to match the same timeline for support as a comparison, because they are targeting the same market within the same hardware timespan. ​Fairphone 5 uses a Qualcomm QCM6490. It's an Industrial IoT chip with a guaranteed 8–10 year support lifecycle from the manufacturer. That is how they offer long-term support without a subscription: they bought the right hardware. ​The Shortfall: Punkt chose the Dimensity 7300, a standard consumer chip released in May 2024. MediaTek typically supports these for 3–4 years. While Punkt sells 5-year subscriptions, the hardware vendor will likely move on long before that subscription ends.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    So just like any other distro, like grapheneOS or Debian

    I don't think so. If my device runs Debian it's also probably going to run Fedora and SUSE and whatever so if Debian enshittifies I can change.

    GrapheneOS is maybe a reasonable example.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I agree, but my point was obv that with basically all phones is like that - I was commenting on that thing about sla:

    With a subscription fee and a continuous reliance on them for this service you are in a SLA with them. They can modify their service to be more expensive, less privacy focused on a whim. You then have a device you are unhappy with ...

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