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New York City Housing Authority to Replace Gas Stoves With Battery-Backed Induction Stoves in 100 Apartments Under Energy-Efficiency Pilot Program (citylimits.org)
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[–] 25 points 10 months ago (14 children)

This is important for those replacing gas or propane stoves and don’t want to add the cost of running a 240V line that most resistance and induction ovens require.

OK this makes sense. It answers my WTF reaction at the thought of a battery-backed range.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    For real? In Europe one can get induction for less than €200. Significantly less. And a "real", full size one, 4 spots. And adding an oven adds additional €200.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You're right, I've updated my post.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    For comparison, in Australia, gas and induction are at price parity (a budget 4-hotplate setup costs about $200-300 either way). You can buy a single-plate induction cooker for $50 that plugs into the wall and has a temperature configurable from 60-200 C.

    Edit: Stopped markdown converting Centigrate to Copyright symbol

    PS: Also, electricity is cheaper than gas in Australia, because we have so much rooftop solar, electricity is soon going to be free during the midday peak.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    I also see those batteries going bad and complications in the future with such a complicated system rather than a dedicated 240v circuit.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    What makes it seem convoluted? It's slightly more complex than a standard electric stove, but we have and use countless devices on a daily basis with this technology. Very rarely do they have any issues with the charging/discharge circuit.

    Yes, the batteries will eventually need to be replaced, and it could be an issue during Thanksgiving (etc) when a ton of power is needed all at once. But I really think you're overestimating the usage it will get.

    In any event, this is why they're running it as a pilot. Any real-world issues will come to light before a larger rollout.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Has the text changed? I can't find any reference to 240v

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I think this is the new section?

    The winning submission came from Copper, a California-based company which designed a battery-equipped induction stove that plugs into a standard 120-volt outlet. That means the units can be used in existing NYCHA kitchens without the need for major electrical upgrades.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What's so hard about 240v since it takes a thinner wire compared to 110v?

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    Still sounds easier than fixing old gas plumbing, and again, the current is lower so the wires are not thicker they're thinner.

    And I'm certainly not keen on running a big battery that will be next to heat and needs replacement approved by landlord every 3-5 years, plus having to own expensive pans.

    What do I know, I never owned electric stove and I don't want one.

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