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Proton has handed over 32,076 users' data to governments since 2017. Their own transparency report states a 94% compliance rate in 2024. (lemmy.ml)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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[–] 35 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I don't get why people think that any company for that matter would go to jail for a random dude online. They do hand over metadata and everything else is encrypted. Not even Proton can access that data. When served with a court order they have to hand it over. Now if it were GMail, they'd probably make a collage with your pics and share them. That's the difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (8 children)

    Yeah but why would I pay for it?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Because, running such services costs money. And this is not a charitable organisation. GMail does this for free because they're making money off of you with ads and by selling your data.

    I really don't get why this is so difficult to understand. Would you run a cafe offering free coffee?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    cafe offering free coffee

    I actually did something pretty similar for a year or so, and I expect my reasons would be incomprehensible to you.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Everybody has their reasons and it doesn't have to make sense to anyone else especially to a random person online like me. But just out of curiosity, what were you doing? If you don't mind sharing it.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    It was a little more involved, and it's too identifiable.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Well if you can't mention it, then there's no debate.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't want a debate; I'm just telling you you're wrong, something very close to that and more involved does exist, I personally have executed on it, and you almost certainly wouldn't understand why I did it.

    So you are wrong, the world is bigger than you think, and the example of what you thought was hyperbole is a thing someone who randomly saw your Lemmy comment had basically done before.

    And that you have a poor grasp of what motivates people.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Lol. It's really difficult to take anything you say seriously anymore because you claim to have figured out everything about someone online with just a few sentences, basically classifying you along the lines of a troll. So I hope you succeed in your ventures and wish you a very happy new year.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Basically comparing apples to oranges. Mullvad just does one thing or maybe two if you include the browser. Proton operates on a different scale. There's going to be some data generated if you expect to use the whole suite without running into issues. I'll accept your argument when mullvad operates on a similar scale with the same opsec.

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