▲ 407 ▼ Loops publishes illustration of their recommender algorithm (pixelfed.social) submitted 10 months ago by FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 88 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 66 points 10 months ago (8 children) Isn't loops open source? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] 4Robato@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (7 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz -18 points 10 months ago (6 children) So then this is just a shorter explanation, and not "publishing" the algorithm? Because before already anyone could read the code and understand how it works, it would have just taken longer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 78 points 10 months ago Technically, yes the info would be available but not everyone is able to read code so this is a welcome additional bit of info and transparency. I also see it as an example of how future open source social media platforms can promote and demonstrate the way their algorithms work as opposed to the black boxes of proprietary web apps like Instagram etc (which, while not algorithmically transparent or open, have been pretty well established to have algorithms that prioritize maximizing time on platform and engagement over all else with some serious negative repercussions for that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@fedia.io 62 points 10 months ago (2 children) anyone could read the code and understand how it works "Anyone" is doing some heavy lifting here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but "could" is the one doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Personally, I would not be able to understand this, looking at the code (or any code). I appreciere that they shared a visualization of it. If you're hung up on the word "publish" instead of "share", "posts" or "shows", then I think its redundant permalink fedilink source parent [–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) I suppose that by using the word “publish”, I made it sound like the algorithm had been private until this point. I could probably have chosen a better phrasing like “published breakdown illustration”. Edit: I’ve updated the title. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4Robato@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (7 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz -18 points 10 months ago (6 children) So then this is just a shorter explanation, and not "publishing" the algorithm? Because before already anyone could read the code and understand how it works, it would have just taken longer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 78 points 10 months ago Technically, yes the info would be available but not everyone is able to read code so this is a welcome additional bit of info and transparency. I also see it as an example of how future open source social media platforms can promote and demonstrate the way their algorithms work as opposed to the black boxes of proprietary web apps like Instagram etc (which, while not algorithmically transparent or open, have been pretty well established to have algorithms that prioritize maximizing time on platform and engagement over all else with some serious negative repercussions for that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@fedia.io 62 points 10 months ago (2 children) anyone could read the code and understand how it works "Anyone" is doing some heavy lifting here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but "could" is the one doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Personally, I would not be able to understand this, looking at the code (or any code). I appreciere that they shared a visualization of it. If you're hung up on the word "publish" instead of "share", "posts" or "shows", then I think its redundant permalink fedilink source parent [–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) I suppose that by using the word “publish”, I made it sound like the algorithm had been private until this point. I could probably have chosen a better phrasing like “published breakdown illustration”. Edit: I’ve updated the title. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz -18 points 10 months ago (6 children) So then this is just a shorter explanation, and not "publishing" the algorithm? Because before already anyone could read the code and understand how it works, it would have just taken longer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 78 points 10 months ago Technically, yes the info would be available but not everyone is able to read code so this is a welcome additional bit of info and transparency. I also see it as an example of how future open source social media platforms can promote and demonstrate the way their algorithms work as opposed to the black boxes of proprietary web apps like Instagram etc (which, while not algorithmically transparent or open, have been pretty well established to have algorithms that prioritize maximizing time on platform and engagement over all else with some serious negative repercussions for that). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@fedia.io 62 points 10 months ago (2 children) anyone could read the code and understand how it works "Anyone" is doing some heavy lifting here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but "could" is the one doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Personally, I would not be able to understand this, looking at the code (or any code). I appreciere that they shared a visualization of it. If you're hung up on the word "publish" instead of "share", "posts" or "shows", then I think its redundant permalink fedilink source parent [–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) I suppose that by using the word “publish”, I made it sound like the algorithm had been private until this point. I could probably have chosen a better phrasing like “published breakdown illustration”. Edit: I’ve updated the title. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 78 points 10 months ago Technically, yes the info would be available but not everyone is able to read code so this is a welcome additional bit of info and transparency. I also see it as an example of how future open source social media platforms can promote and demonstrate the way their algorithms work as opposed to the black boxes of proprietary web apps like Instagram etc (which, while not algorithmically transparent or open, have been pretty well established to have algorithms that prioritize maximizing time on platform and engagement over all else with some serious negative repercussions for that). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@fedia.io 62 points 10 months ago (2 children) anyone could read the code and understand how it works "Anyone" is doing some heavy lifting here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but "could" is the one doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but "could" is the one doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago Heck, the way people are being nowadays, it's "read" that's doing the heavy lifting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Personally, I would not be able to understand this, looking at the code (or any code). I appreciere that they shared a visualization of it. If you're hung up on the word "publish" instead of "share", "posts" or "shows", then I think its redundant permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) I suppose that by using the word “publish”, I made it sound like the algorithm had been private until this point. I could probably have chosen a better phrasing like “published breakdown illustration”. Edit: I’ve updated the title. permalink fedilink source parent