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[+] -25 points 11 months ago (19 children)

The doll said comparing a Chinese person to a yellow bear is unacceptable, and agreed with the US's official stance on Taiwan? What woke nonsense, obviously the toy should encourage children to make racist jokes and at the mention of China blood should pour from the toy's mouth as it demands every man, woman, and child living in Taiwan be sacrificed.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (13 children)

    Seeing the state that so called communists go all-in on has got me questioning my own faith in communism to ever not be..... Like that. Like holy DAMN you really to be simping for power in weird ass situations.

    Wait did the bear write this?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    his total inability to comprehend what you wrote is astounding. 😆

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Eh, it wasn't worth it. I don't know why I thought I should pile on. I'm not going to be the guy who makes him think Muslims might have gotten genocided and that it's okay to call our respective leaders donkey-brained genociders.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Seeing the state

    You haven't seen the state, you've seen silly stories western media comes up with. Occasionally those stories are supported by facts taken wildly out of context to the point of being deceptive, other times they're fabricated from whole cloth.

    China isn't some kind of utopia, but it is a model of good, responsive governance. It's actually difficult to make any general statements as it's massive, and there's a high degree of local control, so the same problem will be tackled a dozen, sometimes contradictory(eg, expanding public transit while inducing greater demand for cars) different ways, with varying levels of efficacy. Sometimes the inferior solutions are quietly replaced by more the ones proven more effective, other times

    spoilerthey build like 10 toilets with TVs, heated seats, attendants, etc for people to show on xhs or whatever and say the problem is solved, and then the rest of the city's public toilets are the same 3 squat, 1 pedastool, with a basket of shitty toilet paper next to each, that you can smell from a block away.

    Wait did the bear write this?

    Well a bear wrote it.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    China isn’t some kind of utopia, but it is a model of good, responsive governance.

    They disappear people for writing erotica. Ghosts and time travel are banned in fiction. What's good about this?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    Which would be about as honest as me taking the Brown University shooting and claiming it represented the USA as a whole.

    Did you expect me to get defensive about this? That does represent the US as a whole. It might be too much for you to comprehend, but I can criticize more than one country at a time.

    And yes, I fully believe you can buy stories where there was "time travel" that turned out to be all just a dream or where it was actually part of an in-universe fictional story, but everyone's heard about Back to the Future being banned for having actual time travel in it.

    Did you have to use a VPN to access Lemmy, by the way, or is it too small for the Great Firewall to know or care about?

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  • [+] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    So you really think it's okay that your country blocks you from visiting foreign websites? Like, I'm perfectly happy to criticize all the dumb shit that's wrong with the United States. Our government is a pile of shit. But you need a VPN to use ordinary websites, and you still think China's laws are "good"?

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  • [+] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I never said the US was better than China, but you sure seem determined to think that only one of them can be bad, so I don't see any point in continuing this.

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  • [+] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Is the "thorough dismantling" in the comment you deleted? How am I supposed to reply to something I can't read?

    But sure, let's say you're right about that -- you replied to those examples and not my mentioning erotica being banned, so I presume I was right about that?

    You know what, I just noticed you also cited "math is hard" as a "typical American" attitude, but if you're going to go this hard on defending Chinese censorship, I might as well point out that "math is hard", in the context of talking dolls, was thoroughly clowned on by literally everyone when it happened in... [checks] 1992.

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  • [+] 8 points 11 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You didn’t know that the Xi Jinping/ Winnie the Pooh comparisons were racist?

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    They're not.

    That meme was invented in China, by Chinese netizens.

    Xi didn't like being poked fun at, and added it to the list of censored phrases/images/concepts.

    EDIT:

    It then later spread to the Western internet, who then memed it further... then China got real mad, did the Great Firewall of China thing real hard...

    ... and nowadays, we here in the West have a bunch of self described 'leftists' who seem to believe the whole thing was a racist Western meme from the start.

    It wasn't.

    It was meant to convey Xi as basically derpy, lackadaisical, oafish, childish.

    Thats what the CCP took offense to... not any racial stereotypes.

    Japanese netizens soon also concluded that their PM at the time, Shinzo Abe, bore a significant resemblance to Eeyore... presumably due to the bags under his eyes, and just generally looking old and tired.

    It was based on real world images of Xi meeting Obama. Obama was Tigger, Xi was Pooh, they looked to be walking, ambling along in a good mood.

    Here it is, the first iteration of the meme, originating in 2013... from Weibo, a Chinese social media site, sort of similar to Facebook:

    ... The Chinese user drew Pooh and Tigger, this is not a frame from some previously existing media.

    Perhaps unlike a lot of younger modern internet users... I followed all this in real time, I'd graduated uni a year or two prior, was still in my prime shitposting years.

    Everyone these days who thinks the whole thing is inherently racist, has always been that way... No.

    I remember being on reddit, and us westoids being amused by an, at that time, fairly rare, huge viral meme in China, that was so viral that it made it all the way over to us.

    Here's the Twitter post that introduced it to the West:

    Ya'll can stop rewriting history, or working yourselves up into hysterics about this... any time you like!

    The meme has since grown, again, in China, to basically be a symbol of resistance, given how hard it's been banned, as well as a symbol of opposition to thr CCP in other East Asian and South East Asian countries.

    If the whole thing was that... Pooh is yellow, and ... therefore this a racist cariacature... why are Chinese dissidents and citizens of other Asian countries using it as they do?

    EDIT 2: I've literally been banned from much of Hexbear and ML, in the past, for pointing this out.

    They're just delusional about this.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    can't reason with Tankies, mate. they're off both the deep end and their meds.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    Oh I know.

    That's why I just tell them things, and then laugh when they have their reddit style, cliqueish, spasm of hiveminded insulting mockery through their own insular set of memes and phrases that only make sense if you're permaonline in exactly the same way they are.

    Then I just block those people.

    Not everyone on ML or Hex is completely bonkers.

    ... But a lot of their mods and admins are.

    But but, same with .world!

    The internet is a funny place.

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