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[–] -3 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Seeing the state

You haven't seen the state, you've seen silly stories western media comes up with. Occasionally those stories are supported by facts taken wildly out of context to the point of being deceptive, other times they're fabricated from whole cloth.

China isn't some kind of utopia, but it is a model of good, responsive governance. It's actually difficult to make any general statements as it's massive, and there's a high degree of local control, so the same problem will be tackled a dozen, sometimes contradictory(eg, expanding public transit while inducing greater demand for cars) different ways, with varying levels of efficacy. Sometimes the inferior solutions are quietly replaced by more the ones proven more effective, other times

spoilerthey build like 10 toilets with TVs, heated seats, attendants, etc for people to show on xhs or whatever and say the problem is solved, and then the rest of the city's public toilets are the same 3 squat, 1 pedastool, with a basket of shitty toilet paper next to each, that you can smell from a block away.

Wait did the bear write this?

Well a bear wrote it.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    China isn’t some kind of utopia, but it is a model of good, responsive governance.

    They disappear people for writing erotica. Ghosts and time travel are banned in fiction. What's good about this?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    Which would be about as honest as me taking the Brown University shooting and claiming it represented the USA as a whole.

    Did you expect me to get defensive about this? That does represent the US as a whole. It might be too much for you to comprehend, but I can criticize more than one country at a time.

    And yes, I fully believe you can buy stories where there was "time travel" that turned out to be all just a dream or where it was actually part of an in-universe fictional story, but everyone's heard about Back to the Future being banned for having actual time travel in it.

    Did you have to use a VPN to access Lemmy, by the way, or is it too small for the Great Firewall to know or care about?

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    So you really think it's okay that your country blocks you from visiting foreign websites? Like, I'm perfectly happy to criticize all the dumb shit that's wrong with the United States. Our government is a pile of shit. But you need a VPN to use ordinary websites, and you still think China's laws are "good"?

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    I never said the US was better than China, but you sure seem determined to think that only one of them can be bad, so I don't see any point in continuing this.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Is the "thorough dismantling" in the comment you deleted? How am I supposed to reply to something I can't read?

    But sure, let's say you're right about that -- you replied to those examples and not my mentioning erotica being banned, so I presume I was right about that?

    You know what, I just noticed you also cited "math is hard" as a "typical American" attitude, but if you're going to go this hard on defending Chinese censorship, I might as well point out that "math is hard", in the context of talking dolls, was thoroughly clowned on by literally everyone when it happened in... [checks] 1992.

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