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What will a post US empire world look like? (lemmy.ml)
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The cracks are showing. The US empire is in decay. What will the world look like once it's no longer able to bully everyone? What do we have to look forward to both inside and outside the imperial core?

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[โ€“] 23 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Unless there's some critic event like a civil war, I'm guessing it will be a slow decline of the U.S. I don't think any country stands to replace it, at least not in the same amount of dominace that the United States had. I think two or three countries, including the U.S., will dominate economic and military power for quite a number of years with a great deal of shuffling between them.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    A multi polar world will surely emerge. The empire will crumble slowly and gradually cede power to other forces.

    I think the reality is the US will still be one of the most powerful countries but in a world where they seriously have to operate in diplomacy and not just imperial shows of force will be a net positive for the world overall.

    The hope there is other nations that are polar powers and are nominally engaging in anti capitalist behavior will spread that ideology and help lift the the tides of revolutionary fervor to wholesale replace capitalism as the global economic system.

    Unless the US does the thing where they decide to violently lash out (as empires do in the past collapses) and nukes the world a few times over. I don't think this is likely but also it is assuredly not non zero which is insane.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    It's a very optimistic outlook. I hope you're right.

    What's uncomfortable for countries in the Western hemisphere is that upon shifting to a multipolar or "spheres of influence" model of the world (which was the norm preglobalization), America will continue its imperialistic tendencies to claim some form of dominion over Canada Mexico and South America. The latest foreign policy strategy document from the Trump administration seems to harken to the Monroe Doctrine (which was a warning that colonization of any further territory in the Western hemisphere by European powers would be viewed as a threat to U.S. security). It seems like Trump sees the Western hemisphere as "belonging" to America on some level.

    I also don't see the US competely discarding neoliberalism when it comes to tech / services, where it still dominates. That requires some type of openness to the world otherwise they won't be able to continue to enforce their IP rights. When someone makes a Doordash order in Kathmandu, they want some portion of that transaction flowing through both Silicon Valley and their payment processors (Visa, Mastercard etc). How will the US respond when socialism spreads and those countries make their own versions of these services? Hard to imagine they would respond reasonably, especially since their approach to any resistance up until now has been to stage a coup. Old habits die hard.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 11 months ago

    Change in the US will happen out of necessity when the US does try to do this but can actually receive pushback but much of it will have to happen because average people take up the call to build something better. The movement is growing every day.

    I am optimistic that over enough time and with enough deliberate action anything is possible. Maybe not in my lifetime but that's the fight I've committed myself to and it's a righteous one.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Lmfao, we're not going to make it another 3 years. This system is designed to implode immediately, and even if it doesn't, our highschoolers are already functionally illiterate and plagued with learned helplessness.

    Agriculture, housing, medical, finance, all guaranteed to collapse shortly. All on top of our already fragile shipping networks, it's not looking good.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 11 months ago

    Right I think a lot of this is going to collapse and STILL the US will be one of the most powerful countries. That is how disgustingly evil we have been at suppressing the rest of the world. Once our oppressive boot is less potent there are some beautiful developments in this world waiting to happen.

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