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[–] 31 points 11 months ago (12 children)

They generally don't though because the burden to indict is SIGNFICANTLY lower than the burden to convict. Anyone that you cannot even get an indictment for isn't likely to be convicted at trial.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Yeah, except that dealing with a legal defense costs a lot of time and money. So even if they can't convict they can use the courts as a means to punish.

    Really shows how much our legal system needs an overhaul to prevent abuse like this.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Which is the whole point of grand juries.

    We've gone for a century with prosecutors being afraid to test the grand jury because it's embarrassing to miss and mostly pointless.

    Now we're seeking out fake prosecutors who don't give a fuck.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, just another destruction of norms.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Kind of. There was a reason to create the grand jury concept in the first place.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I wasn't disagreeing. My point was that the norm was not getting an indictment on a grand jury was embarrassing and hurt someone's career. This disincentivized prosecutors from repeatedly bringing a case to a Grand Jury. But Trump and his cronies don't care, breaking the norm, and will keep pushing to get what they want.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    That was the norm for the past century. The norm for centuries before that was that the King could fuck whoever he likes, metaphorically or literally, for any reason.

    They're bringing back old norms.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There's no defense at a grand jury hearing. So at least that's free. Likely not stress free.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    My point is Trump can keep brining it to a Grand Jury cause it effectively costs him nothing. It only takes one grand jury to indicate and then Trumps political enemies (Comey/etc.) are forced to pay legal fees (amongst other things).

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