▲ 119 ▼ Liberal vs leftist (lemmy.ml) submitted 11 months ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (4 children) Because the Soviets were assholes. I didn't realize that would be controversial. I wish folks wouldn't restrict the concept of anti-capitalism to the ussr. Raised fist? Red and black? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (2 children) What assholes, liberating millions of feudal peasants and modernizing an entire country and eliminating hunger and poverty and spreading literacy and giving women rights and revolutionizing agriculture and medicine and defeating the nazis and inventing space travel and supporting liberation movements around the world. What absolute pricks. Edit: just saw you lower down being relatively chill permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) I was going to send a DM to cowbee, but it may be worth knowng for others. I'm a bit older and may be a "normie" leftist with moderate anti-cap views and have unexamined prejudices about the USSR. I liked what I read from Lenin/Marx (one work each, i know!) but don't like the reality of what I know of Stalin so don't want that association. After reading some more, I'll reexamine the USSR prejudices. So thanks to cowbee and folks who didn't assume malice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago I'm impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago Civil and Fair, so thanks. I'll also pay more attention to the instance in the future if only to not be so baffled. Even if folks consider the Soviets progressive for the time, my 2 cents is that tying modern anticapitalism to the realities of USSR, especially Stalinism, does a disservice to progressive movements and even Marxism. But as you say, it's a minority opinion, so I'll accept my downvotes. Thanks again permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (4 children) Because the Soviets were assholes. I didn't realize that would be controversial. I wish folks wouldn't restrict the concept of anti-capitalism to the ussr. Raised fist? Red and black? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (2 children) What assholes, liberating millions of feudal peasants and modernizing an entire country and eliminating hunger and poverty and spreading literacy and giving women rights and revolutionizing agriculture and medicine and defeating the nazis and inventing space travel and supporting liberation movements around the world. What absolute pricks. Edit: just saw you lower down being relatively chill permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) I was going to send a DM to cowbee, but it may be worth knowng for others. I'm a bit older and may be a "normie" leftist with moderate anti-cap views and have unexamined prejudices about the USSR. I liked what I read from Lenin/Marx (one work each, i know!) but don't like the reality of what I know of Stalin so don't want that association. After reading some more, I'll reexamine the USSR prejudices. So thanks to cowbee and folks who didn't assume malice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago I'm impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago Civil and Fair, so thanks. I'll also pay more attention to the instance in the future if only to not be so baffled. Even if folks consider the Soviets progressive for the time, my 2 cents is that tying modern anticapitalism to the realities of USSR, especially Stalinism, does a disservice to progressive movements and even Marxism. But as you say, it's a minority opinion, so I'll accept my downvotes. Thanks again permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (2 children) What assholes, liberating millions of feudal peasants and modernizing an entire country and eliminating hunger and poverty and spreading literacy and giving women rights and revolutionizing agriculture and medicine and defeating the nazis and inventing space travel and supporting liberation movements around the world. What absolute pricks. Edit: just saw you lower down being relatively chill permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) I was going to send a DM to cowbee, but it may be worth knowng for others. I'm a bit older and may be a "normie" leftist with moderate anti-cap views and have unexamined prejudices about the USSR. I liked what I read from Lenin/Marx (one work each, i know!) but don't like the reality of what I know of Stalin so don't want that association. After reading some more, I'll reexamine the USSR prejudices. So thanks to cowbee and folks who didn't assume malice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago I'm impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) I was going to send a DM to cowbee, but it may be worth knowng for others. I'm a bit older and may be a "normie" leftist with moderate anti-cap views and have unexamined prejudices about the USSR. I liked what I read from Lenin/Marx (one work each, i know!) but don't like the reality of what I know of Stalin so don't want that association. After reading some more, I'll reexamine the USSR prejudices. So thanks to cowbee and folks who didn't assume malice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago I'm impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago I'm impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago Civil and Fair, so thanks. I'll also pay more attention to the instance in the future if only to not be so baffled. Even if folks consider the Soviets progressive for the time, my 2 cents is that tying modern anticapitalism to the realities of USSR, especially Stalinism, does a disservice to progressive movements and even Marxism. But as you say, it's a minority opinion, so I'll accept my downvotes. Thanks again permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago Civil and Fair, so thanks. I'll also pay more attention to the instance in the future if only to not be so baffled. Even if folks consider the Soviets progressive for the time, my 2 cents is that tying modern anticapitalism to the realities of USSR, especially Stalinism, does a disservice to progressive movements and even Marxism. But as you say, it's a minority opinion, so I'll accept my downvotes. Thanks again permalink fedilink source parent
