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Republican women when they find out Republican men are mysoginist (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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The rest of us. .... Not so much.

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[–] 5 points 11 months ago* (10 children)

Anti-feminist propaganda is a real thing. As a guy I like to think I’m fairly progressive but believed a lot of the hate against feminism even as an adult. The women I knew were “the good ones”.

The thing is it was based on caricatures of feminism, outliers and extremists, and the claim that feminism is no longer necessary. I’m sure those extremists exists and we are closer to gender equality than historically but feminism has helped us all and we do need more of it.

We had children before there was any paternity leave in the US. I must have been complaining that I wished I could spend more time with my newborn, but it was the feminist group at work who went to demand there be paternity leave, because equal is equal and paternity leave helps everyone

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    The word has been branded "dirty". I met a guy who said he supported equality between genders but wasn't a feminist. I'm like, my dude, that's literally the definition of feminism. It's just wanting equality.

    He argued and argued that he wasn't a "feminist".
    While still claiming he supported every ideal of feminism.

    He insisted feminist were "blue hair girls with nose rings who told everyone they were bigoted and ruined video games".

    I blame the bro culture. And specifically Asmongld. That tool.

    Invents imaginary women stereotype, and then blames the imaginary women for all his problems and why he has to be misogynist. They drove him to it. These imaginary women are the cause.

    It all just gets old real fast.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    The problem is they were too successful at it and all too many have that as their definition of feminism. That’s all they know.

    I do think a different term might be called for, because that one is lost to many

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Someone else will just tarnish any new term. Our best bet is to just educate people what it actually means.

    Like how "communist" and "socialism" has been made into a dirty word. And let's not forget the most recent one, "Antifa".

    We just have to fight against it. And do our best to correct the misperceptions when we can.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    I started watching YouTube in the last year after successfully withstanding it all this time. I make at least some effort to protect my data with mixed results.

    But the algorithms has decided what it wants to show me. And yes it includes a large category of revenge against militant feminists. They’re clearly ai slop and entirely fiction. But I have watched some (which means I got more 🙁) and I do like a good case of karma

    So yes, there is significant ongoing effort to paint the term “feminist” into the worst case scenario. If you keep watching that, it will affect you

    ….. and I have to figure out how to make the algorithms the work for me. Unfortunately that probably means giving away more personal data, including truthful data, so you can’t win

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago* (4 children)

    The algorithms are hot garbage. I don't know what I clicked or when but ive been getting increasingly videos for fake garbage crap too. Stuff about conspiracy theories and astrology and I don't get it.

    I never watch any of that "it was aliens". And I'm vehemently against astrology b.s.

    Since scrolling on my computer "counts" videos as watched that my cursor rolled over (per my watch history, I have confirmed this) I'm now stuck in a never ending feed of garbage.

    These algorithms are the worst.

    I'm also pretty sure they work by real world proximity to others.

    I had been living in Chicago and took the L train a few times where it was pretty crowded. Get home and I'm finding alt right videos on my feed.

    Right after getting home from the train.

    Happened on two separate occasions.

    Coincidence maybe. But thinking algorithm assumed me standing next to someone for 45 min means they are my friend and starts suggesting to me what they watch.

    Have you noticed anything like that?

    I could be wrong. Just seemed sus.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Not like that, but either YouTube leans way conservative or ……. Perhaps it’s purely demographics. As a middle aged white male, of course I must be conservative, love stories of revenge against feminist/hoa/boss, and i really want to be advertised scams like ivermectin and viagra substitutes.

    I figure they must have at least figured out my demographics and making assumptions about that is more important than looking at who I follow and offering similar

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I'm betting they have a demographic profile for you and that's a lot of it. It would explain why I get astrology b.s. it's pushed on women a lot.

    One thing I always liked about reddit compared to other social media was I felt like I had more control over the content I saw.

    Same for Lemmy.

    I really dont like being fed slop that an algorithm decided I should want based on my age/gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation, and any number of other identifying information.

    I'm also someone who likes new things. New creators, new topics. And social media traps you in bubbles.

    It's became so hard to find smaller channels on YouTube.

    Have you heard of the dead internet theory ? It really seems inevitable sometimes.

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