"The start of the collapse of the industrial production (here calculated in per capita terms) was supposed to be at some moment between 2010 and 2020. A little too early, because we passed that moment. But that calculation was made more than 50 years ago, and it is legitimate to think that it needs some readjustments. That was what Nebel et al did in a recent paper; they recalibrated the same model (word3) on the basis of the available real-world data. And here is their result. "

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[–] 1 point 11 months ago

id suggest if theres a population decline it's because some system has broken down

Modern population decline in the western world is because automation means people don't need 10 kids to do farm work so they can survive. The population decline is because the system is working so well we don't need as many people to survive.

As to an improveing living atandards for everyone, i also don't think that will occur, we allow the wealthy to accumate most increases now,

A decrease in the number of workers makes each worker more valuable. This has been seen in history after the Black Plague and more recently after the depopulation of Europe from WW2 of the most productive workers resulted in an economic boom.

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