▲ 624 ▼ Just vote to change things. (lemmy.ml) submitted 11 months ago by Twongo@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 178 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Dippy@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (6 children) You're right, I dont know that they are a psyop. I do, however, know that the position of 'voting is not worthwhile if you are a leftist' that they are taking above is the same position that many psyops would like to have in the minds of leftists. Put more simply, what might they have said differently if they were a psyop? Nothing, I presume. It is better to root out psyop talking points that diminish our ability to form a collective voice, than it is to allow foolish notions like 'dont vote' to continue in our spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) I don’t know why you think you own the place when this is their Lemmy instance, while you're a guest here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago I dont own the place. But neither does anyone in this comment thread, no one here is a mod on memes.ml, not that I should be expto know who owns what on a public forum permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (6 children) You're right, I dont know that they are a psyop. I do, however, know that the position of 'voting is not worthwhile if you are a leftist' that they are taking above is the same position that many psyops would like to have in the minds of leftists. Put more simply, what might they have said differently if they were a psyop? Nothing, I presume. It is better to root out psyop talking points that diminish our ability to form a collective voice, than it is to allow foolish notions like 'dont vote' to continue in our spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (6 children) You're right, I dont know that they are a psyop. I do, however, know that the position of 'voting is not worthwhile if you are a leftist' that they are taking above is the same position that many psyops would like to have in the minds of leftists. Put more simply, what might they have said differently if they were a psyop? Nothing, I presume. It is better to root out psyop talking points that diminish our ability to form a collective voice, than it is to allow foolish notions like 'dont vote' to continue in our spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren't holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago If they don't care if we vote why are they trying to make it illegal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago I don’t care what fascists hope. If fascists say the sky is blue, does that make it a “fascist talking point,” and therefore isn’t blue? That’s just not how it works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) I don’t know why you think you own the place when this is their Lemmy instance, while you're a guest here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago I dont own the place. But neither does anyone in this comment thread, no one here is a mod on memes.ml, not that I should be expto know who owns what on a public forum permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago I dont own the place. But neither does anyone in this comment thread, no one here is a mod on memes.ml, not that I should be expto know who owns what on a public forum permalink fedilink source parent