▲ 545 ▼ Israel’s IDF Bans Android Phones—iPhones Now ‘Mandatory’ (www.forbes.com) submitted 11 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 135 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] grehund@lemmy.world 102 points 11 months ago (8 children) They don’t want people installing GrapheneOS on them. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 50 points 11 months ago (7 children) But isn't that stupid tho. Like they should want their military officers to be using the most secure OS. But then again, its funny to see them make stupid decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago (1 child) That's only true if they trust them. If the goal is to ensure they can keep track of dissidents then no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago It's a both-ways situation. They allow only the Fisher-Price version of phones so less-than-power-users don't do something stupid. They also allow only Fisher-Price so power users can't beat Celebrite as easily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago I wouldn’t assume any news about technology being used by IDF to be true in the first place. It could just as easily be misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children) They want to be able to perpetually spy on their military officers to keep them in line. Boot out any dissidents or anyone refusing to carry out illegal and genocidal orders. Many fascist states like Stalin's USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, etc all have mass spy programs on the most powerful who aren't the leader. It shows perpetual paranoia, which is expected as popular support for Israel has fucking collapsed in most Western countries. They know their time is limited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) I would be interested to know what definition of fascism you are using that includes the USSR and North Korea. Fascism is not the same thing as authoritarianism, if that's the definition you're going by. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism A significant number of scholars agree that a "fascist regime" is foremost an authoritarian form of government; however, the general academic consensus also holds that not all authoritarian regimes are fascist, and more distinguishing traits are required for a regime to be characterized as such.[2][3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) I'm using the 14 points: https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html Of which the USSR under Stalin, and North Korea in general fit damn near perfectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 50 points 11 months ago (7 children) But isn't that stupid tho. Like they should want their military officers to be using the most secure OS. But then again, its funny to see them make stupid decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago (1 child) That's only true if they trust them. If the goal is to ensure they can keep track of dissidents then no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago It's a both-ways situation. They allow only the Fisher-Price version of phones so less-than-power-users don't do something stupid. They also allow only Fisher-Price so power users can't beat Celebrite as easily. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago I wouldn’t assume any news about technology being used by IDF to be true in the first place. It could just as easily be misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children) They want to be able to perpetually spy on their military officers to keep them in line. Boot out any dissidents or anyone refusing to carry out illegal and genocidal orders. Many fascist states like Stalin's USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, etc all have mass spy programs on the most powerful who aren't the leader. It shows perpetual paranoia, which is expected as popular support for Israel has fucking collapsed in most Western countries. They know their time is limited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) I would be interested to know what definition of fascism you are using that includes the USSR and North Korea. Fascism is not the same thing as authoritarianism, if that's the definition you're going by. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism A significant number of scholars agree that a "fascist regime" is foremost an authoritarian form of government; however, the general academic consensus also holds that not all authoritarian regimes are fascist, and more distinguishing traits are required for a regime to be characterized as such.[2][3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) I'm using the 14 points: https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html Of which the USSR under Stalin, and North Korea in general fit damn near perfectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago (1 child) That's only true if they trust them. If the goal is to ensure they can keep track of dissidents then no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago It's a both-ways situation. They allow only the Fisher-Price version of phones so less-than-power-users don't do something stupid. They also allow only Fisher-Price so power users can't beat Celebrite as easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago It's a both-ways situation. They allow only the Fisher-Price version of phones so less-than-power-users don't do something stupid. They also allow only Fisher-Price so power users can't beat Celebrite as easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago I wouldn’t assume any news about technology being used by IDF to be true in the first place. It could just as easily be misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children) They want to be able to perpetually spy on their military officers to keep them in line. Boot out any dissidents or anyone refusing to carry out illegal and genocidal orders. Many fascist states like Stalin's USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, etc all have mass spy programs on the most powerful who aren't the leader. It shows perpetual paranoia, which is expected as popular support for Israel has fucking collapsed in most Western countries. They know their time is limited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) I would be interested to know what definition of fascism you are using that includes the USSR and North Korea. Fascism is not the same thing as authoritarianism, if that's the definition you're going by. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism A significant number of scholars agree that a "fascist regime" is foremost an authoritarian form of government; however, the general academic consensus also holds that not all authoritarian regimes are fascist, and more distinguishing traits are required for a regime to be characterized as such.[2][3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) I'm using the 14 points: https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html Of which the USSR under Stalin, and North Korea in general fit damn near perfectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) I would be interested to know what definition of fascism you are using that includes the USSR and North Korea. Fascism is not the same thing as authoritarianism, if that's the definition you're going by. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism A significant number of scholars agree that a "fascist regime" is foremost an authoritarian form of government; however, the general academic consensus also holds that not all authoritarian regimes are fascist, and more distinguishing traits are required for a regime to be characterized as such.[2][3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) I'm using the 14 points: https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html Of which the USSR under Stalin, and North Korea in general fit damn near perfectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) I'm using the 14 points: https://public.websites.umich.edu/~rsc/Editorials/fascism.html Of which the USSR under Stalin, and North Korea in general fit damn near perfectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago Thanks for your answer. permalink fedilink source parent