▲ 763 ▼ The system is working exactly as intended (crazypeople.online) submitted 11 months ago by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml 69 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago (4 children) Thanks for ur perspective, i think they r fair points, but you are giving up a lot of personal liberty and freedom of expression if you are OK with systems of something like PRC, but i suppose that can be classified as a choice However I think that the censorship that goes around such countries also makes it harder for us to know anything other than for example China might want to show us, we dont really have much idea of how internal dynamics work there and if u choose to believe personal testimonies its not pretty… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 11 months ago Fun graph. Is it okay to say otherwise? No repercussions to saying anything bad about the government? Or even perceptions that there may be repercussions? I say this wittingly at risk of suffering the same heavy downvotes as the responder who merely concluded "the china one raises some questions…". Someone (or more ideally everybody) needs to stay curious and question things... permalink fedilink source parent [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (2 children) I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago (4 children) Thanks for ur perspective, i think they r fair points, but you are giving up a lot of personal liberty and freedom of expression if you are OK with systems of something like PRC, but i suppose that can be classified as a choice However I think that the censorship that goes around such countries also makes it harder for us to know anything other than for example China might want to show us, we dont really have much idea of how internal dynamics work there and if u choose to believe personal testimonies its not pretty… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 11 months ago Fun graph. Is it okay to say otherwise? No repercussions to saying anything bad about the government? Or even perceptions that there may be repercussions? I say this wittingly at risk of suffering the same heavy downvotes as the responder who merely concluded "the china one raises some questions…". Someone (or more ideally everybody) needs to stay curious and question things... permalink fedilink source parent [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (2 children) I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 11 months ago Fun graph. Is it okay to say otherwise? No repercussions to saying anything bad about the government? Or even perceptions that there may be repercussions? I say this wittingly at risk of suffering the same heavy downvotes as the responder who merely concluded "the china one raises some questions…". Someone (or more ideally everybody) needs to stay curious and question things... permalink fedilink source parent [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (2 children) I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 point 11 months ago Fun graph. Is it okay to say otherwise? No repercussions to saying anything bad about the government? Or even perceptions that there may be repercussions? I say this wittingly at risk of suffering the same heavy downvotes as the responder who merely concluded "the china one raises some questions…". Someone (or more ideally everybody) needs to stay curious and question things... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (2 children) I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it. permalink fedilink source parent