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Hey capitalism how's it goin? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.ca
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[–] 11 points 11 months ago (16 children)

I think the connection they're going for is this is the kind of hair brained distopian bullshit that eventually comes trying to achieve "infinite growth"in a finite world.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Well it's not like socialist countries don't need growth to achieve their goals and that growth needs new workers

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (6 children)

    I think the implication is that in a socialist/communist utopia there would be no need for continual growth. their only goals would be to make their populations comfortable and I guess further the arts/technology.

    Obviously one or two non capitalist countries need to try and grow at the same rate as their capitalist neighbours so they can try and fend off the “democracy” that capitalist countries so often like to bestow on non-capitalist and/or oilfield owning countries.

    How those types of societies would operate when not trying to compete with aggressive capitalism is unknown. No doubt human nature would take its course and we’d be back here in 50 years or so.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    utopia

    Right. But in the meanwhile...

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    In the meanwhile things are getting consistently shittier under capitalism and someone has suggested using brain dead woman as incubators to combat the collapse we’re looking at now that there are no new countries to exploit.

    Why do you think we’re so desperate to get to space now? Capitalism needs growth.

    You can support that system or you can try to work for a new one.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The new one, as it exists right now, looks pretty horrid too. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear this story from the supposedly socialist China.

    And I don't think some loon suggesting this means much. Anyone can suggest anything. This made news because of how horrible the suggestion was and how outraged people got over it.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Supposedly socialist is exactly right, but we’re not here to split hairs about the exact name of the ideal governing/economic style.

    In a very dumbed down way socialism/communism is meant to value the goals of the many over the few and capitalism is touted as the bastion for individual freedom. But there is no end to individuals getting royally fucked, often in legal and yet unfair ways in capitalistic countries all for the sake of a few percentage points on a quarterly report.

    Most people who are capitalism detractors don’t want follow in china or Russia’s footsteps. We just want a system that values people more than money.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's just that there's doubts if we'll ever get closer to that socialist utopia than what we've seen so far. I hope we do but so far it hasn't gone well

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I hope the one benefit we get out of this trump fiasco is people starting to look around and realise things could be much better. Unfortunately dropping literacy levels are making people easier to trick. Memes and short form videos are one of the best ways to communicate to them. And you better believe that groups with bad intentions are paying people up post things that push their ideas.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I can see China inducing comas in Uyghur women and forcing them to be incubators for the billionaires in the Chinese Capitalist Party who don’t want to deal with pregnancy.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    If the Chinese do it is double plus ungood but if the west does it, it is by definition, double plus good. Thank you fellow pleb for teaching me this understanding. I'm double plus looking forward to the 2 minutes of hate this morning.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    “Double plus” good? What kind of nonsense is this?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    It's Newspeak from Orwell's 1984:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak#Prefixes

    It's purposefully stupid.

    I personally use it to highlight issues on China. It seems to me that, like the Conservative/Liberal Party divide, the The West/China divide is more a "it's good if my side does it but bad when my opponent does it".

    Use of Newspeak high lights this obserdity by replacing good with good and bad with ungood (i.e. not-good or opposite of good)

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It’s not good if anyone does it.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    That's my point though. It isn't good if anyone does it. Doesn't matter the country, party of political ideology.

    Why be upset at China if we're doing it as well? At least we have control over our laws, not China's.

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