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[–] 10 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Golfers

I've never golfed but there are far worse sports.

F1: let's pave over the green space with asphalt ( petroleum) and run cars that shed tire rubber (petroleum) and sometimes leak engine oil until the surrounding land is dangerously contaminated.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Golf uses a fuck ton of water and land. It's not great either.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Both of those may not be a big concern, depending on the situation.

    Land availability in North America is not really a concern; there's a shit ton of land available. When cities expand and the golf course's land value goes way up, the course tends to get sold off.

    Water use also is a case of "it depends". If the the course is using aquifer water, yes that's a big problem. Many, if not most, don't use aquifer water. In the wetter climates, most are using water pumped from rainwater fed holding ponds, or other lakes, rivers, etc on the property. Even in Arizona, most courses are using treated grey water, keeping them from contributing to any water shortages.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    When cities expand and the golf course's land value goes way up, the course tends to get sold off.

    Do they? All the courses that I remember being on the edge of towns and cities just had the city grow around them as the increase in customers made up for the increased ownership costs.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    but both are equally bad.

    Asphalt, petrol, oil, and tires are equally bad to watering grass so old men can drive electric carts around?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Golf courses are estimated to take up ~0.1% of all US land. Yes, a square mile of F1 track is worse than a square mile of golf course, but we're talking probably 1000x difference in scale.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Ehhhh, I honestly think golf is worse. How many F1 tracks are there, and how many golf courses? Yes, F1 might be worse for each instance, but I bet golf takes up something like 100-1000x more usable space. Factor in the water reqs and it's probably not even that close in terma of environmental impact?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Of all of the sports to make fun of, surely, surely NASCAR or something is lower hanging fruit.

    F1 has had some pretty neat innovation actually come to road cars in the past decades and has some amount of continued materials engineering that's fairly cutting edge. Also, of all the things to make fun of, leaking oil is really infrequent. Just for the fun fact, the engine-on time of an F1 car has less emissions per year than a one way flight from NY to London

    It isn't great for the environment of course, but it's just a funny one when there's a LOT better things to rip on.

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